Finding swingers

My husband and I have started dipping our toes into the swinging lifestyle.

My question is, in a scenario where we’re meeting another couple in real life at a bar or resort or really anywhere where we can converse. How do we go from point A of meeting them to point B of playing together? How do we steer the conversation that direction? How to we determine if they are interested or part of the lifestyle?

Real life examples would be wonderful! Thank you!