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0ddBoy

Why is there no armor/mana/ability power item?

When i get into game and play someone mana heavy in the mid lane like Gragas or Oriana against a Zed or Talon, I find that I am forced to build a seekers armguard but this leaves me mana hunry. I know that the tear is a viable option but it takes a while to stack and would much rather have an item that conforms to both mana and armor. Im thinking something close to Athene's but armor obviously.

EDIT: When I say MANA i mean MANA REGEN

Posted Dec 12, 2013, 5:16 AM UTC · edited

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fltmgn•

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Iceborn_Gauntlet

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0ddBoyOP•

Oh... thats right. This sounds great and all but dont you think this item is way more defensive than offensive and isnt very viable in the mid lane?

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StarburstPrime•

Uhhh FF is very effective in a lot of hands... But with 100+ champs that many can go mid, FF works on quite the couple of them.

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0ddBoyOP•

I mean when is the last time you saw a mid laner go frozen fist over buying zhonyas. This says alot about the cost effectiveness for it in the mid lane

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gahlo•

It says a lot for Zhonya's, the an item that allows you to build full offensive slotwise, a decent chunk of armor, and the best active in the game.

Just buy the tear.

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fltmgn•

If you don't want to sacrifice too much offense then you can just get a pair of Cloth Armors and sit on them, or build Ninja Tabi instead of Sorc's if you need the item slots, and proceed with your Athene's rush as usual.

A very cheap answer to your problems that forgoes the investment of building an entire Armguard. This way you can get to your mana item before your mana costs grow too high with levels.

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0ddBoyOP•

But what mana item would i get without wasting money on Magic Resist or any other useless stat. Once again tear isnt very good on someone like grag or Oriana

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0ddBoyOP•

I find that all i have are my two dorans rings for mana

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gahlo•

Build Morello's then.

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fltmgn•

Rod of Ages is another option. It's a decent item that Gragas would like, given the recent changes to his E that reward more aggressive play. I don't know enough about Orianna to comment on her, though

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Iamhereforcats•

Totally man! When I get into game and play someone mana heavy in the top lane like Olaf or J4 against Akali or Gragas, I find that I am forced to build a negatron cloak, but this leaves me mana hungry. I know that tear is a viable option but it takes a while to stack and would much rather have an item that conforms both mana and magic resist while having AD . I m thinking something close to Iceborn Gauntlet but MR obviously.

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gahlo•

I lawl'd.

On a side not, calling Olaf mana hungry is hilarious.

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Empathized•

I would advise building seekers and a couple dorans rings. Gives you enough mana sustain and gives you a bit of extra health so you don't get bursted quite as easily. I would advise this type of build on champions like Lissandra or gragas.
However, on champions with spammable spells (like orianna, as you mentioned), I would advise going tear + seekers. Both build into heavy damage items and you get all of the mana + armor you need.

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