What do we think old Joe would think of new Joe?

So when I think of old Joe, I think of a guy that’s inherently distrustful of the elites, an image he still kind of tries to project today.

So let’s say hypothetically Jay Leno (or whoever you’d consider the rogan of the late 2000’s, someone who gets mocked but is also inarguably successful) was to be really tight with the president, as well as multiple billionaire CEO’s, standing up for them on their shows etc.

Would he mock them? Would he view it as a respectful part of success? Would be so interested to see a podcast of old Joe interviewing new Joe lol.