Arguments about MBTI and Enneagrams, please ๐๐พ๐ฎโ๐จ
A few weeks ago, I got interested in the Enneagram. But read a book? Do serious research? My brain immediately activated the emergency protocol: absolute laziness.
Reasonable solution: take a quick online test.
Result: 6w7.
I read the description. Loyal, warm, group-oriented... Meh. I'm not cold, but let's just say my individualism precedes my altruism by about three miles. Not convinced.
Second test. This time I focus. I answer based on what I actually show, my real reactions.
Result: 3w4.
Ambitious, success-driven, hardworking... I get stuck on "hardworking." I get things done, sure, but only out of absolute necessity. "Doing nothing" ranks pretty high in my top 3 favorite activities, right after "doing exactly what I want" and before "sleeping." Not convinced either.
So in a fit of frustration that is very personally mine, I did what any reasonable person would have done: I downloaded ALL the books on the Enneagram available on Google in one night. I read everything. I made notes. Summaries. I was a machine. (Today I remember about 40% of it. But the energy was there.)
Conclusion from my great research night: I identify with 8, 7, and 4.
Small problem...those three together don't exist. It's like ordering a coffee with cream but without the coffee and without the cream.
After a lot of reading, existential doubts, and a few back-and-forths on similar Reddit forums, I concluded: 8w7. The Challenger who parties. That speaks to me.
I mention it to an ENTP friend who knows about the Enneagram and MBTI, the kind of person dangerously equipped to analyze you without your consent.
He confirms the 8w7. I'm relieved.
Then he adds, with a smirk: "But you're probably ESTP. At most, you're ENTJ 4w3... but I'll stick with ESTP."
I am ENTJ. I know it. It's written in my DNA, in my being, in the way I organize my grocery lists. He then proceeds to list "lord knows how many facts" to support his thesis. Facts! As if facts could change what I am. He only knows one side of me. He's wrong. Moving on.
I go find a second opinion from another ENTP.
She listens. She thinks. And then, with unsettling confidence, she announces: "No no, you're clearly ESTJ."
ESTJ.
She also pulls out "lord knows how many facts." A vein begins to appear on my forehead. I can feel it growing in real time. Last resort: my INTJ friend. Someone calm, thoughtful, reliable.
He listens carefully.
He says: "You're most likely... ENTP."
Bro. We were talking about the Enneagram. How do you people jump from the Enneagram to MBTI like they're the same thing? They're two different systems! It's like going to a cardiologist and leaving with an ophthalmology diagnosis.
Anyway, after all that, I have a real question for those who know their stuff: Is there any documented correlation between certain Enneagram profiles and certain MBTI types? Like, does 8w7 statistically point toward certain types more than others?
Because apparently my social circle has very firm theories on the subject, and I'd like to have solid arguments to prove them wrong.
Posted May 6, 2026, 11:21 PM UTC