Message for Ahmed, the Friend of the Dajjaalic Haddaadi

--( بسم الله والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله )--

Refuting Misguided Sects

It's interesting that you have seemingly never seen how active I was in refuting misguided people and sects over time on Reddit. I created the subreddit r/AnsweringMutakallimun to refute Ahlul-Kalaam before I created r/AnsweringHaddaadiyyah. This was before Dimashqiyyah deviated from Ahlus-Sunnah and became an innovator of the Haddaadiyyah sect, going against the foundations of Ahlus-Sunnah. The ignorance of what it means to deviate, of opposing the foundations of Ahlus-Sunnah, is not only found in the Haddaadiyyah but also in the Madkhaliyyah sect. Just as these two sects falsely perpetuate what it means to be from Ahlus-Sunnah, they have created false notions and fail to clarify why calling oneself "Salafi" or "Athari" is not a replacement for the term Ahlus-Sunnah.

This is why you cannot yet articulate, in your own words, how Mahmood al-Haddaad deviated, what happened to him, why shaykh Muqbil al-Waadi'ee spoke so harshly against him, and that he was not the only one. You cannot articulate, with verifiable references, how Rabee' al-Madkhali deviated or what exactly he opposed regarding the foundational principles of Ahlus-Sunnah. And your source for such understanding is who? You are likely at the mercy of translators, which explains why you have not come across refutations against Mahmood al-Haddaad or Rabee' al-Madkhali.

Attacks Through Dajjaalic Connections

This is why I am flattered that you have given me undivided attention through your dajjaalic Haddaadi friend. It tells me that you do not even know how he has belittled the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) yet you act as though you have gheerah for the Ummah. Who are you to oppose shaykh Muhammad Adam al-Ethiopi when he has given respect to al-Haafidh as-Suyooti, just as countless recent and contemporary 'ulama' have done? Yet you remain complacent, lackadaisical, and yielding to the vileness, ugliness, and slanderous nature of your friend Bashem in accusing as-Suyooti of homosexuality.

Are you also that careless about your friend lying about my site being pornographic and spreading demeaning lies against me? And are you indifferent to the fact that slandering a fellow Muslim by accusing him of homosexuality is punishable in Shari'ah? Are you such a person with cognitive dissonance that you claim there are far more important matters to attend to or focus on? Is behavior none of your concern? Are unbecoming characteristics and lying not to be corrected?

The Importance of Scholars in Knowledge

How are you that blind? Who are you to feel emboldened to think you can extract knowledge of the Salaf when you don’t even have scholars? Yet you think Imam Abu Dawood al-Sijistaani somehow invalidates the point about having scholars as your teachers, or as though it undermines the nobility of how knowledge is imparted just because we now have books? You don’t even have the book of the author who transmitted this statement of Imam Abu Dawood al-Sijistaani. How are you so pretentious as to ignore the author, ibn Bashkuwal? He has ijazaat and sanad, which means what? He has scholars as teachers. As though you have some grand point so powerful that it is as simple as quoting this citation: "Who do you command us to sit with after you?" to which he responded, "The books."

The very title by ibn Bashkuwal is "The Selected Benefits and the Strange/Extraordinary Stories," and I doubt you even know the purpose of his collection or why he compiled it in the first place. Yet you brought this statement to somehow disprove my point? Do you even understand how Ahlul-Hadith teach their students, yet you think this statement is to be understood literally? Are you that far removed from the Arabic language and usool al-fiqh? The hypocrisy of you people never ceases to amaze me, and your unwillingness to acknowledge manipulation as though you can bewilder us away from reality is remarkable.

Statements of Imam Abu Dawood al-Sijistaani

How are you ignoring imam Abu Dawood al-Sijistaani's words when he said:

رَحِمَ اللهُ مالِكًا كانَ إِمامًا، ورَحِمَ اللهُ الشّافِعِيَّ كانَ إِمامًا، ورَحِمَ اللهُ أبا حَنِيفَةَ كانَ إِمامًا

"May Allah have mercy on Maalik, he was an imam, and may Allah have mercy on ash-Shaafi‘ee, he was an imam, and may Allah have mercy on Abu Haneefah, he was an imam." (Source)

How are you so blind as to inadvertently concede to the lies and disparagements against imam Abu Haneefah from your dajjaalic friend? Or are you also the type who believes scholars can be disrespected, which is why you engage in vileness against those who aren't scholars but remain silent about those who have spoken favorably of Abu Haneefah? You have never studied al-Jarh wa al-Ta'deel under anyone, nor the science of hadith, yet you presume to tell me who learned these disciplines. Doing so only exposes your ignorance, and the hypocrisy of your false foundations becomes obvious. This inconsistency in your methodology proves exactly my point: knowledge is taught nobly through scholars, not merely through books.

Hence, you cannot bypass the purpose shaykh Bakr Abu Zayd wrote in his Hilyat Taalib al-'Ilm. This also shows you are not a student of knowledge. How lowly it is to attempt to bring up old, uninformed mistakes of some moderators, as though such "insults" are greater than the insults of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) by your friend. How does this prove anything when far worse slander has been made against imam Abu Haneefah, al-Haafidh ibn Hajar, imam an-Nawawi, and al-Haafidh as-Suyooti? Yet you feel insulted when someone states shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen was "on payroll by Saudi"? These were not my words nor my stance, yet you don't feel insulted when your friend spreads vileness against those scholars, which you likely witnessed yourself, but then you make a video about me? If this is not cognitive dissonance, I don't know what is.

False Claims and Misrepresentation of Knowledge

Yet you feel emboldened to demand that I focus on what you believe deserves attention. You likely have never even seen the foundations I have established, or what I emphasize for the laypeople: that knowledge is learned through scholars, and foundational beliefs must be established before anyone can engage in the misguidance of sects. 'Aqeedah is a distinctive science, just as al-Firaq is, and this reveals clearly that you are not a student of knowledge. This is quite basic understanding.

You are also not even proving anything by your attempt to cite from Kitab as-Sunnah by 'Abdullah ibn imam Ahmad on the narrations against imam Abu Haneefah, but this yet again proves your pretentiousness and how lacking you are in having scholars as teachers, when this matter was all clarified way before you were born. But it again shows how inconsistent and hypocritical you guys are, as what was referenced above is already damning enough.

For instance, when shaykh 'Abdul-Kareem al-Khudayr was asked about Kitab as-Sunnah by 'Abdullah ibn Ahmad, he responded:

... In the book as-Sunnah by 'Abdullah ibn imam Ahmad (may Allah have mercy on them), there are weak reports, and this is the case in many of the works of the early scholars, where the author did not necessarily adhere strictly to authenticity in all reports.

What is mentioned regarding imam Abu Haneefah (may Allah have mercy on him) is part of the broader context of criticizing innovators. Criticism of innovators at the time was significant because the innovations were still recent, and it was easier to turn away from them. However, when dealing with an innovator, it is clear that the innovator is in opposition to the Sunnah. Innovations vary in severity, some of which are blasphemous and some are not. The one who follows a heretical innovation that leads to disbelief should be treated as a disbeliever, especially if they are obstinate and there is no confusion or doubt remaining about the truth. If the doubt was removed and the truth was made clear to them, but they still persisted in their stance, they are treated in the same manner as disbelievers.

On the other hand, if the person has genuine doubts, and no one has been able to remove them, or if their doubt is strong and they are excused due to their ignorance, then the matter is different. There are factors that must be taken into account.

In any case, imam Abu Haneefah (may Allah have mercy on him) remains one of the great imams of the Muslims, and the reports about him, especially regarding innovation, are meant to serve as a warning against innovations that arose during his time.

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How uninformed can you be? How are you ignoring the scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah in addressing this issue?

Shaykh Saalih Aal ash-Shaykh was asked: "What is your view on what is mentioned in the Kitab as-Sunnah of 'Abdullah ibn imam Ahmad regarding the accusation of Abu Haneefah saying that the Qur'an is created, and so on?" He answered:

"This is a good question. This is found in the Kitab as-Sunnah of 'Abdullah ibn imam Ahmad. At his time, the fitnah regarding the createdness of the Qur'an was significant, and people would cite things attributed to Abu Haneefah, from which he was innocent, such as the claim that the Qur'an was created. Other things were attributed to him by the Mu'tazilah, from their interpretation of the divine attributes and so on, which he was also innocent of. Some of these reports spread among the people and were transmitted by some scholars, who ruled according to the apparent wording. This was before Abu Haneefah had an established school or madhhab, because this was close to his time. Statements were transmitted, the words of Wakee', the words of Sufyan ath-Thawri, Sufyan ibn 'Uyaynah, and the words of other scholars regarding imam Abu Haneefah. At that time, by the ijtihaad of 'Abdullah ibn imam Ahmad, there was a need to transmit the sayings of scholars as they were reported.

But later, as at-Tahaawi mentioned, the scholars agreed not to transmit such reports and to mention imam Abu Haneefah only with goodness and praise. This was after the time of al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi. That is, in the time of imam Ahmad they may have spoken about it, and in the time of al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, some statements were transmitted in his history, and responses were written against them. Eventually, by studying the methodology of the Salaf in the sixth and seventh centuries, ibn Taymiyyah wrote his famous treatise Raf' al-Malaam 'an al-A'immah al-A'laam, "Lifting Blame from the Eminent Imams." In all his books, he mentions imam Abu Haneefah with goodness and praise and invokes mercy upon him. He attributes to him only one matter, the statement regarding al-Irjaa', deferring judgment of sinners, without transmitting the entire series of sayings attributed to him. There is the book al-Fiqh al-Akbar of Abu Haneefah, and there are his letters indicating that generally he followed the righteous predecessors, except in this issue concerning whether deeds are included in the definition of faith.

When scholars wanted to print Kitab as-Sunnah of 'Abdullah ibn imam Ahmad, the supervisor and reviewer was shaykh 'Abdullah ibn Hasan Aal ash-Shaykh, may Allah have mercy on him, who was the head judge in Makkah at that time. He removed this chapter entirely from printing, so it was not printed, because from the standpoint of Shar'i wisdom it had its time and ended. It was an act of ijtihaad and consideration for the people's benefit to remove it and not leave it, and this is not a betrayal of trust. True trustworthiness is not letting people turn away from what 'Abdullah ibn imam mentioned in his book regarding authentic Sunnah and correct creed because of these transmitted sayings. The book was printed without this chapter, and it spread among the people and scholars as Kitab as-Sunnah of 'Abdullah ibn imam Ahmad.

Recently, in a scholarly thesis or research, this chapter was reintroduced; it exists in the manuscripts and is known. They reinserted this chapter, saying that trustworthiness requires its inclusion.

There is no doubt that this is not correct, but it follows the practice of previous scholars, scholars of Da'wah, in matters of Shar'i policy, understanding the purposes of scholars in their compositions, differences of time, place, circumstances, what creed was settled upon, and what scholars said about it.

When it was printed, I was attending a scholarly gathering at the house of the esteemed shaykh Saalih al-Fawzan. The late shaykh 'Abdul-'Azeez, may Allah have mercy on him, was also present, and I raised the matter. He, may Allah have mercy on him, said in shaykh Saalih's gathering: 'What the scholars did is correct and proper. From Shar'i policy, it is appropriate to remove it; including it is not suitable.' This is the methodology upheld by scholars."

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Pretentiousness Online

This is the issue of pretentiousness online. It shows how some individuals, in attempting to get ahead of themselves before the scholars and addressing me directly, are merely projecting. They act as though I am on par with their lowliness of rushing ahead of the scholars. They try to "address" me or "refute" me as though I had put myself forward, as though my words carry weight, or as though I am not relying on the scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah. The Haddaadiyyah directly target me, attempting to disparage me, while completely ignoring that I put forward the scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah before myself. I am simply conveying, or making it easier to understand, the falseness of the Haddaadiyyah methodology, citing scholarly references exactly in line with the points I present.

Is it because you are at the mercy of translators, ya Ahmed? Rhetorical question aside, there is always a right time and circumstance to address misguidance. Just as self-proclaimed Ahlul-Kalaam who attempted to lie against Ahlus-Sunnah were addressed in a timely manner, you just happened to be late or unaware of those circumstances. Similarly, the Madkhaliyyah sect has been refuted, as has the Shee'ah sect. It is no surprise that the falseness of the Haddaadiyyah sect is being addressed in a similar, timely manner.

Conclusion

I would like to end by stating that I am thankful for you giving me your undivided attention, as it allowed me to further expose the falseness of your methodology, how misguided you people are, and how far removed you are from the scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah. The audacity to feel emboldened to bypass, ignore, and forego them, the obstinacy in thinking you do not need scholars as teachers, only proves that knowledge once had nobility when it was passed down from teachers to students, before people became occupied with books. Alhamdulillah, the truth is clear. It is like claiming you can learn tajweed without any teachers, simply by reading books. This also indicates that you do not adhere to a madhhab but have adopted a false Dhaahiriyyah approach in their mistaken conception of taqleed. That, however, is beside the point, as there are many other issues that could have been addressed, though you clearly do not have the attention span to fully comprehend what I have conveyed.

So, spare me your personal feelings and your complaints about how blunt I am toward the likes of you, who belong to the Haddaadiyyah sect. This is not a therapy session. You likely ignore shaykh Bakr Abu Zayd because he contradicts the false foundations you stand upon, like your friend Bashem. You fail to understand that when scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah are discredited, everything they testify to is undermined. As shaykh Bakr Abu Zayd states:

"And with this, you come to know that the accursed initiative of declaring the imams—such as an-Nawawi, Ibn Daqeeq al-‘Eed, and Ibn Hajar al-‘Asqalaani—as disbelievers, or belittling their status, or labeling them as misguided innovators, all of this is the work of Shaytan. It is a gateway to misguidance and leading others astray, as well as corruption and spreading corruption. If the witnesses of the Shari‘ah are discredited, then what they testify to is also discredited. However, the ignorant and reckless do not comprehend nor do they verify." (Source)

This is exactly why your attempts to attack me or question my points reveal more about your pretentiousness than anything else. You confront me personally as though I am on the same level as your friend Bashem, yet you ignore the very scholars whose authority you cannot bypass without undermining yourself. The audacity to feel emboldened to reject, bypass, and ignore the guidance of Ahlus-Sunnah exposes your ignorance and the weakness of your methodology.

Please, inform yourself of the Haddaadiyyah sect:

• متسلسلة التبديع الحدادية ( دراسة تأصيلية تحليلية مقارنة )

May Allah guide you.