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CMV: The formation of the modern-day state of Israel was illogical

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Most of the endless debates about Israel typically boil down to a discussion of ethics, morality, and the historical claim over the ancient land of Judea. And while these topics are still important, I think they ignore the underlying issue with the creation and expansion of modern-day Israel: it was and still is illogical.

The three main reasons this is pure insanity is because:

  1. There is a massive native population that has lived there for thousands of years who could not be more different from you in practically every way imaginable (culturally, religiously, etc)

  2. Creating said state would have to involve the displacement of said massive population who will obviously resist

  3. You're surrounded by multiple nations who do not want a western-sponsored state in the region

These elements have created a constant state of war in the middle east that would not have started had Israel not forced itself into the region.

Moreover, Israel has to be in a constant state of war and expansion because it is again, surrounded by nations and displaced peoples who (justifiably so) want nothing more than its destruction.

In conclusion, when the creation of your state requires displacing millions of people and a constant state of war and colonization just to maintain it than it's just not worth it. Not on a moral, philosophical, or most importantly logical level.

Posted May 10, 2026, 10:05 PM UTC

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