I think there’s been a societal change from a baby / toddler being seen as a vulnerable human that should largely be at home for their safety/ consideration of others…. and a personal accessory that parent(s) bring with them everywhere

I’m 27 and I remember having babysitters occasionally in the early 2000s if my parents had things to do or just wanted a night to themselves. It wasn’t just me either it was a general expected thing. Honestly there’s still some of that going around (thankfully) of parents hiring a baby sitter when they want to go out with friends or even if they have work or need to run errands all day or something.

Obviously this started way before my time, and I’m not trying to sound like a boomer…but babies used to be seen and viewed as vulnerable….. because they are. There is no reason to bring a baby to Disneyland, or on a vacation across the ocean or to a bar…. Or to anything taking place after 8pm…… they won’t have memories of it or learn from it/ cherish the experience and it’s just frustrating them and taking them out of comfort zones before they have agency.

Toddlers aren’t much different either.

I think it comes from a new(ish?) fad of people treating their children like accessories to themselves and not individual creatures you need to seriously plan for.

Like it’s common sense to everyone here that babies don’t belong at bars or weddings or airports (say for necessary traveling like if their family is immigrating) But large sections of the breeder community recently seem to be all up in arms over this sentiment.

I used to think it came from just not being concerned with the wellbeing of others but now I think it’s more of a cultural statement. A “yes I’m a mom, I can still go to raves, bars, travel and do everything with my wonderful infant!” Like they treat their children mini human as if it’s a an iPhone they just need on them 100% of the time because “it’s mine”.

Wedding says “no children” - “I can bring my baby because I bring them everywhere because they’re mine”

Bar says “you need to be 21 to order” - “I’ll just prop my baby up on a bar stole so they can lick a grimy bar table and get coughed on / full of second hand smoke because I WANT TO GO TO A BAR”

“I can’t afford a babysitter” while ordering vodka sours, two appetizers, and an entree at a sit down restaurant…. If that’s true bro you need to get a second job and start raking in the dough otherwise your immense poverty is going to ruin the lives of your entire family.

“Things are expensive!!! And I’m a single parent” yeah….. it’s true. So you shouldn’t be taking a vacation to Jamaica with a toddler. You need to be working or studying, ideally both to lift yourself and your kid out of your situation. Hindsight’s 20/20 but like it should be common sense to have financial independence and stability before having a kid regardless.