Revenge of the sith

Hi everyone,

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Im a huge fan of star wars, I have been for over 20 years now (Im recently turned 23) and have probably watched each movie at least 50 times. Revenge of the Sith is absolutely my favourite of the set and theres always been a couple things that have dug at the back of my mind.

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My friends and I would argue endlessly about this in school so, let me get into it:

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My first nagging feeling was with the mace windu vs palpatine fight. I know Mace Windu uses Vaapad and that is specially designed for turning the dark side of the force users power against them. HOWEVER, I cant help but feel palpatine, knowing all 7 forms of lightsabre combat would do a better job against this. And so it is my belief that mace windu did not over power palpatine at all, he couldnt, but rather palpatine could sense how the events had transpired, that Anakin still wasnt trusted by the council and was in emotional turmoil.

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Palpatine knew Anakin would show up and so feigned weakness so as to paint Windu as this evil jedi overpowering a weak and defensless Palpatine that has offered Anakin the ability to save his wife. Now I know it doesnt take genius to kmow a sith lord if evil but with the emotional turmoil and it being very spur of the moment, had palpatine been flying around with his lightsabre I could imagine Anakin aiding master Windu in this and thus saving him from his descent into the darkside. So thats my first thought

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My second thought is when Padme confronts Anakin on mustafar, again, all of my friends think at this point there is no turning him and he is fully engulfed in the darkside. But there is a point when padme is talking to Anakin and she mentions Obi-Wan and how he wants to help him and HE SMILES! Idk but I feel like that smile could have been an indicator of his willingness to turn back to the light, padme is with him, his old master is with him. Maybe he went so far in because he saw no way out but if Obi Wan could forgive him then maybe it was possible? Until the sassy man spawns at the walkway of the ship and all hopes are dashed. If Obi Wan had approached him differently instead of spawning there and just bloody aura farming, maybe anakin could have seen there was a way.

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TLDR: To cut it short, Im basically trying to see if you guys agree that the mace vs palpatine and anakin and padme were key moments where Anakin definitely could have been saved had things happened ever so slightly differently. So you guys agree or do you think Mace really did beat Palpatine??? And do you think that Anakin was lost by the time padme came to him or could he have been turned if Obi Wan handled it differently or if he wasnt there?

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Thanks for your time guys and feel free to debate any other revenge of the Sith stuff below, Id love to hear your thoughts and opinions!

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