easiest lords to learn kislev and Bretonnia

titale, basically. I tried playing as Katarin, resigned after a few turns because I couldn't get a hang on their eco and was rank 210, just feels like a faction with so many different mechanics should get an easy lord just to allow players to learn how they work in a non apocalyptic scenario

(same applies to chorfs btw)

and for Bretonnia, I tried Repanse thinking she'd be relatively safe in her desert but same thing, I resigned after realising I was rank 200+ and got sandwiched between Skarbrand and the tomb kings factions on the coast

alternatively if you got any tips for those factions I'll take it

(army, eco, I just don't want a step-by-step how to win the campaign without using your brain guide)