4Geta or Jiren as point?

Hi everyone!

I'm currently going through a high loss streak with 4Geta (atp all my friends have been reading my many blockstrings attempts which are like 12 different combinations) and I recall that many of my most difficult matchups have been against Jiren as point. I know some of his aerial combos (unlike most characters, he is best at starting with jM combos) but I've yet to sit down and try good and consistent 50/50 / >50% combos with him. My game approach has been evolving into read and counter rather than quick mashing (first hit, then 4geta, now Jiren?)

What are your thoughts on a Jiren match as point vs a 4Geta match as point?