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Gizmodex

CMV: H5 was a terrible campaign. But H5 multiplayer and Warzone > Halo 2's and Infinite's. BR meta sucks.

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Look idc if you think 343/Halo studios is bad. They have made plenty of mistakes 100%. But man I wished the community gave them pointers on what of their work to keep instead if just saying BUNGIE DID IT BETTER.

Because Infinite's Multiplayer pacing just feels like Halo 3s with a new skin and ngl a tiny bit slower. Everyone feels heavy. Also Warzone looked like a natural evolution of firefight. Firefight was already getting boring in Reach. Spartan Ops sucked but if you had friends some missions are hellla fun. E.g the Mantis ones.

Also I hate BR meta. Hate me all you want I actually find it just as fun when halo games has/had a shit ton of weapons which averaged out their damage and speed. With a BR meta back in the days 70% of the sandbox became useless, especially on big maps. Yes I understand game modes selection etc, but with 2 weapons in your backpack, it leaves little room for maximizrd utility. Imagine running across the map to grab a plasma pistol just to disable a vehicle. Maybe make the secondary a randomized pistol. Hell in Halo 2 who tf wants to use other weapons if BR wins in both short and long range battles. Why wouls anyone use the H2 pistol, etc.

Building upon this, I didn't mind Halo 4 having loadouts, yes this is a personal preference issue, because now I can use all weapons. Sure maybe equipment shouldve remained a pickup item, killstreaks are very cod like. Maybe they should've just had random ordinance drops all around the map instead with waypoints. But now you can use all the base weapons, and you can learn them fast, averaged out the same. E.g the Assault Rifle and BR and DMR were all equally great and fun to use, nobody was quick to ditch one for the other. But then ppl complained and 343 upped the BRs damage to previous games (4 shots). And thr DMR was quickly ditched unless it was a big map.

Anyways, Halo Infinite's sandbox feels so limited and narrowingly forced ( Because of sandbox purists) . These same people forget that e.g bloodgulch and any medium to large map in CE was basically sniper or magnum heaven so much so it becomes boring. But the second Charon or Rate Race or Battle Creek was loaded everyone was in wild arena with explosions everywhere. And that every weapons balance was on steroids e.g the fuel rod, plasma rifle, shotgun, and it was fun. Hell CE's multiplayer to this day feels a lot more fun than Infinite's. Fk the balancing.

Halo 5's warzone had every weapon and vehicle. But yeah lol fk aim down sights ew. If they ever come around to remaking multiplayers in the remakes or revamping it in Halo 7, campaign to bring back Warzone and expand the sandbox again and not make people depend on the BR.

Sure whatever get rid of aim down sights and killstreaks and stupid sprint (like dont make it so sprint is so powerful that it influences map design) .

If ppl like BR DMR or magun meta JUST PLAY SWAT.

Posted Jul 11, 2026, 2:35 PM UTC

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