Hello, welcome to the "series" dedicated to analyzing the numerical performance of newly released IDs/EGOs.

Our focus at this time will be on **Dawn Office Gregor** and **Faust**

Let’s start with Fauna's numbers

**Burn**:

Total Pot ≈ 11+0>20

Total count ≈ 16 (+12 from Team Assists)

Maintenance ≈ -1 (+11)

**Tremor**: 

Total Pot ≈ 7+0>15

Total count ≈ 13 (+6 from Team Assists)

Maintenance ≈-4 (+2)

Application wise Faust is pretty awkward, she only has enough to sustain her bursts if you bring at least Gregor but doesn't have any major potency increase from doing so (which is what's normal for the side kick side of Pair IDs like KK Cliff), and for the two status she supports, potency lack has been a major factor on their gameplay, but to make matters worse her application is randomized on the skill she will be using the most so you can end up having "negative" potency application from her applying what's already maxed.

Now for Crackgor

**Burn**:

Total Pot ≈ 41 (+24 from Team Assists)

Total count ≈ 23

Maintenance ≈ +7

**Tremor**:

Total Pot ≈ 28

Total count ≈ 16 (+8 from Team Assists)

Maintenance ≈ +4 (+8)

Here comes the beast of the forest; Everything that Faust lacks Gregor offers double, from having better count on his own and a massive potency application on burn to gaining a gigantic benefit of the S3 team assists Gregor cements all the lacking aspects of Fausts with his amazing application and rewards you for bringing Faust along with him. He currently has the best non EGO burn application, tho sadly due to being as backloaded the Chicken Loop still holds the throne with their more consistent S3 Spam; but for non-underslot contents Gregor is a mandatory addition for anyone playing burn and tremor (and much better than Firefist for his fans who still exist for some reason)

Another aspect Gregor takes the lead is that he's cappable of sustaining the status on his own meaning a new player pulling IDs will have a much better performance with Gregor than with Faust if only one was pulled. (But yes still aim for both and keep spending your pulls since this is Walp). 

**Moving on to DPR (Faust)**

*DPR stands for damage per rotation, which is a method of calculating an IDs performance based on 6 \[or the first 6\] turns of the game in which is ID is “forced” to go through all it’s skills.*

Fauna's **raw damage** performance (Counter>S2>S1>S3-2>Counter-2>S2; This is assuming no status conds as like mentioned prior she can't sustain it)

22 + 52 + 34 + 101 + 106 + 52 ≈ **367**

Fauna's **perfect damage** performance (1x S1, 6x S1-2, 2x S2,1x S3-2, 2x Counter-2; all max achievable conditionals and assuming Dawn Office conds):

57 + 288 + 240 + 265 + 530 + 120 ≈  **1500** (+11 bursts)

Fauna's **realistic burn/tremor damage** performance (Counter>S2>S1-2>S1-2>S3-2>Counter-2>S1-2>S2>S1-2>Counter-2; Assuming Dawn Office conds):

24 + 66 + 33 + 41 + 200 + 265 + 23 + 78 + 44 + 296 ≈ **1070**

With this being the "last" banner of the season it confirms the suspicion i've had which is PM raising the DPR baseline to be around 1k with now even the Walp IDs who are known for surpassing the baseline slightly doing the part here by still measuring near the one thousands; With this it means this season had a leap of around 2x the performance of last season. 

But beyond that this Faust in specific is our first Faust ID to, on single target, completely surpass the raw damage performance of Mao Faust through her loops (and does so by having the same gimmick idea of hers off gaining S3s through counters). So let's all celebrate that the problem has become the norm. 

Jokes aside as you can see Faust has amazing raw damage performance for a burn/tremor ID, being stronger than Valencina on this aspect. And this is not accounting the Weight performance which 3x the numbers on her S3-2 and Counter-2. However as can be seen from the raw performance Valencina is a much better generalist ID and can sustain herself which matters for why she's utilized on the poise team. A sad factor is that while Faust as a lot of bursts she will never be able to contribute for the burst damage charts as she's the carrier of everlasting and thus has to abandon her turn for the sake of the setup.

**Moving on to DPR (Gregor)**

Crackgor's **raw damage** performance (Counter>Counter-2>Counter>Counter 2>S3-2>Counter>Counter-2>S2>S3-2>Counter-2)

18 + 20 + 19 + 27 + 197 + 29 + 33 + 90 + 222 + 33 ≈ **688**

Crackgor's **perfect damage** performance (4x S1, 1x S2, 1x S3, 4x S3-2, 4x Counter-2; all max achievable conditionals and assuming Dawn Office conds):

228 + 98 + 129 + 1076 + 144 + 80 ≈ **1755** (+6 bursts and 4 burn activations)

Crackgor's **realistic burn/tremor damage** performance (Counter>Counter-2>S3>S3-2>Counter-2>S1-2>S1-2>S3-2>Counter-2>S2>S3-2>Counter-2>S1-2 Assuming Dawn Office conds):

23 + 26 + 100 + 236 + 36 + 33 + 33 + 236 + 36 + 66 + 236 + 36 + 33 ≈ **1130**

So as we can expect Gregor is also around the thousands on performance, tho this is a curious scenario which both ID pairs measure to the same average, albeit Gregor has higher highs you usually won't engage with those and he's much more gimmicky to play his skill bag than Faust so his performance can lower slightly. That said i wonder why i'm seeing so many people call him tremendously worse than Faust when he has better aplication and similar average to her damage, obviously i don't wanna pull the meme of "everyone is wrong but me" but i don't see how that logic stands and considering the amount of time it took myself to organize their rotations i wanna assume most people don't actually understood how to play him (tho i also cannot deny both IDs due to the lack of modifiers have very restrictive rotations to abuse skill amount so as much as i called it realistic it is very niche still)

# I don't care if it melts my wings and drags me down... Let this sunset never cool, and let it burn!

So before i discuss other aspects of the new Dawn Duo i wanna initially feature Dawn Sinclair, the changes on his performance and a few points i've seen made around. 

Since Sinclair isn't the focus of the post i'll just share a more straightforward DPR of his

Full conds: 344 

Full conds (After Dawn): 698 (+3 burn activations)

So as you can see with the passives of his new teamates, Dawn Sinclair increases his damage performance by more than double and arguably triple if you account for the burn activations, which brings him to around the average better of the better apprentices this season. However a curious thing i've seen is people claiming this occasion was the reason Dawn is better than Thumb, and to that i say not really. 

Quickly after Thumbs release we got Youclair which pushed Thumb out of the burn team due to the loop having better damage and application for the burn team. And for contents which you can't loop Dawn would take the lead as those usually had more targets and his weight would create a damage gap, since ThumbClair is very reliant on scorch for his workarounds and Scorch wasn't very reliable back then, and Harmony EGO sealed the deal on Dawns performance for said content. So i find it curious that people would even bring up this comparison or even imply this was needed to replace Dawn when if anything Thumb has been out of business far longer and this just hits the nail in the coffin since not even MDE is a place of value for him anymore.

However a real curiosity is that, Dawn is entirely unnecessary for the functionality of the others. Albeit Gregor does lose a considerable amount of damage without Sinclairs S3 assist it only happens by the second rotation and doesn't affect Faust in the slightest (albeit working with their speed ordering can be annoying and Sinclair can reduce this RNG). Which means the moment anything newer for burn comes and its time to replace something (or a content favours a different burn strat) you will kick out Dawn without any hard feelings so as much as this buff was meaningful it wasn't enough to solidify his spot in burn and for me the main issue stems from the excessive protection buffs; As few are aware from a prior explanation i did on resistances, general forms of protection won't ever matter if the fight is made to deal damage to you so protectve passives and IDs remain as fallback strats to those unable to extract all they can of a team; So sinclair having so many shields, protections and what not when he has no reason to even engage with taking damage is just taking spots to what could be more damage buffs, the worst offender for me is the one who removes his first stagger, which albeit a good thing always means he cannot force an early stagger and will miss out on the extra copy of S3 which would bring his performance much higher and even able to be comparable to his peers on the team. I understand why they do these because the average player struggles with difficulty but i don't like seeing units who could've been much more get held back by something who's never the units fault.

Oh and the chicken loop is fully functional still as Youcliff has always been the main aspect of it (and Thumbcliff is not really that good)

# Let us cut the conversation short, shall we?

Approaching the burn side of both IDs its interesting to see how burn went through multiple hoops on sins, from having no pride, to having no wrath to now having excessive wrath and pride now essentially solving the resource issue the team often had and allowing for more flexibility on which to prioritise. About the win condition of the team moving forward it is safe to say that either variation of the team (MB or Scorch) will average similar damage performance on shorter fights with MB taking the lead on longer boss fights and even with this being the case there's nothing stopping one from adding MB to the scorch mix more so with the team now lacking a meaningful superbia target. However there's an aspect of Scorch that rather than being a measurement scenario is more of a upgrade to the status itself which is the reflectrial performance; Sadly we lost the Gyeong fight but with the composition of the team its not unrealistic to claim it could possibly beat the fight in 12 turns as one of the better aspects of this variation is that it makes up the weakning of MB on status restrictive fights by having units with high raw damage frequency who provide small bursts of status damage, pushing burn to behave like a budget version of the rupture/sinking statuses by mitigating the restriction of it so instead of measuring which is better i think looking at the approach that this improves burn overall and each context will ask which win con is better is much more appreciated for its flexiblity.

Because at the end of the day the team is still walp locked anyways (lol)

# Honor, status... You two better not get too hung up on stuff like that

Now lets talk about who got the shorter end of the stick; Tremor flaws on resource generation and stack building are still ever present with these IDs having mostly unwanted resources and not having equal tremor application to what they have on burn. And albeit yes one can through the capote work around it takes too long for burn to get ramped in comparison to the other options the team has and you don't wanna use the likes of Dawn Sinclair on tremor which means its one less source of application. Another issue is that Fauna speed buffs are pretty slow which means you end up delaying your wincon (everlasting) much longer and scorch on this scenario won't do enough damage to be faster than it. However the positive side is that for longer content making use of both interactions is now possible and Gregor is still a good addition nonetheless even if it forces Faust for him to perform the part; Sadly this means tremor just feels like a worse version of its burn side and scorch is merely a formality than a "tremor hybrid". Good thing is that Meursault canto will fill the status with a lot of options so this is a non issue for the future.

# Suffice it to say that you could not capitalize on your skills

Returning to the damage discussion of the IDs, for the ones who noticed the skill assortment on the calculated rotations will notice the unrealistic amount of S3 and S3-like skills and thats because these two IDs have a pretty "complex" rotation, so much so the realistic calculation is not that realistic but i believe offering a more casual play style would paint them in a bad light; And what i mean by this is that you will be expected to reset for optimal skill bags and control your speed / skill usage order to extract the most out of these IDs and allow them to loop their stronger skills since they have a severe absence of damage modifiers on their base kit and thus rely entirely on this more mechanic side of their gameplay. Its often why you see people not having large numbers with their kits its because they're relying too much on Skills 1-3 when their strenght is timing their counters and even giving up on clashes to control stacking (thanks again to PM making non-base skills be base skills). And i find this to be pretty positive because often not the difficulty on limbus lies on exploiting beyond kits but these IDs are designed to be used that way so it incentivizes the player to play more competitively. 

# I will finalize our calculations in the meantime. Sinclair? Milk tea for me, please

In conclusion, the addition of these two IDs has modernized burn to work beyond the limitations of its outdated units and abusal of niche mechanics and now the team can hold its weight on content who's difficult and requires full team deployments while also improving on an ID who was already considered for said context even more while stripping him away of any flaws he had and while some may dislike this for characterization sake this is alien to the competitive aspect of the game and thus a positive for me nonetheless, while also improve the pairings of already one of the strongest teams which is Ryoshu's "Sacrifice" but beyond this also raised the ceiling on ID interactios by expecting the player to exploit every mechanic the ID offers rather than being a more standardized winrate composition. ^(And i hope i don't have to see burn builds using Liu IDs anymore they haven't been good for months people these guys just reinforced that) 

Oh and killing these two for Dawn death buffs isn't good. Maybe for a sac strat or future context which you want Dawns application while having better damage IDs over the other two but at that point we hopefully are blessed with de-leveling.

**Thank you for reading, and please check out my** [prior guides](https://www.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/search/?q=calculated+analysis&type=posts&sort=new&cId=93948491-1651-44e6-a700-38f992fe43de&iId=1bdf1923-e52c-4cbc-958d-2c4096c646c2)

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