Ever notice how people argue against adoption from a selfish point of view.

Noticed this when arguing with someone yesterday who claimed that having children isn't selfish because it takes lots of work. I disagreed because creating the needs you then take care of isn't really that selfless and argued that adoption would be a more selfless option. But then this person argued against adoption because it's expensive, takes lots of time and the child could be taken away if the bio parents want them back.

See how all of these arguments are only from the parent's point of view and about their inconvenience? I thought we were talking about whether the action was selfless, not about whether it was hard and inconvenient. In fact, it being hard and inconvenient might make doing it regardless more selfless.

And this is an excuse I keep seeing from people, which makes me doubt they actually think birthing a child is selfless and just make up that excuse to justify it.