Has anyone here heard of **Carnism Debunked** (George Martin)? He's a vegan IG influencer who's been saying some really divisive stuff lately, bragging on his highlights about blocking fellow vegans who disagree with his own narrow interpretations of vegan ethics. This is hypocritical considering that his description says, "freedom of speech; freedom of thought".

Today, he posted about the Vegan Camp Out, complaining about all of the anti-Zionist vegans who have been boycotting it over its display of the Israeli flag on its wall of flags. Not only does he make whatabouteries comparing Israel to alleged genocides in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, but he claims that this is not in fact whataboutery and threatens to block anyone who denies the alleged genocides in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Later in the comments he goes as far as to say that "Islamophobia" is not real, conflating it with simply criticizing the Islamic religion.

I remember Ali Tabrizi being similarly toxic after he produced *Seaspiracy*. He came out as a staunch Zionist and then last year stopped being vegan because he didn't wanna drive far away to buy plant-based marshmallows for his summer smores. Then on that same month, Sprouts started to promote Dandy's marshmallows, likely in response to this.

Vegan Zionists like George Martin and Ali Tabrizi are a disgrace to our movement. They're not helping to convert people as much as they're keeping us on the wrong side of history by supporting Israel. Our movement is stronger when it stands with indigenous peoples around the world, their plant-heavy cuisines, and their greater cultural ties to the ecological well-being of their respective homelands. No matter how Israel tries to greenwash itself, its settlers never live as sustainably as the Levantine Arabs who've been living off the land for millennia without modern consumerism and infrastructure.

IDC much what other opinions vegans have within the movement. Vegan Zionists (and maybe certain radfems) are the only types I'd gladly exclude because Zionism is so obviously racist yet still so impactful today unlike Naziism.

Carnism Debunked made an IG post today to ragebait anti-Zionists