Marathon doesn't have enough unpredictability.

:M2026:Marathon (2026) Discussion

The ultimate goal of any extraction shooter is a simple thing, each raid needs to have a feeling of mystery and fear due to the unpredictable nature of what one may encounter at any point in time.

There are 2 things above all else that are harming that core foundational component and I think both can be solved in one fell swoop thanks to the experimental modes Bungie are happy to try out to see how people respond to rule changes.

Here's the trade off, ALL queues (solo/duo/trio) are fed into 1 matchmaker such that player counts and team sizes are completely unpredictable and unknowable going into a Run. However to even things out there is no longer a way to revive a fully dead player.

Eventually if successful and the changes resonate with players, this style of no res fully unpredictable survival insanity becomes the base extraction mode. We already get a full dedicated PvE mode in season 3 so they just need to figure out a pure PvP arena style and we have the 3 pillars of Marathon available.

PvE for a more laid back casual experience that still allows for mastery and showing off skill through challenge runs/speed runs/ect. Pure PvP hype mode for that spectacular gun play and moment to moment PvP the game does so well. And finally a real PvPvE extraction mode where dying actually means something and you truly never know what might be waiting for you planetside.

There is no other way forward that I see

Posted Aug 20, 2026, 5:09 PM UTC

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