The Thomas Jane interview on Area 52 on Joyce Halfin's abduction experience by the Mantis means...

The interview: [Thomas Jane comes out as an experiencer on Area 52 podcast. He will be hosting our livestream Reddit AMA with the Anomalous Coalition event answering your reddit questions this Sunday (details in the post) : r/UFOB](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/1wdxa4f/thomas_jane_comes_out_as_an_experiencer_on_area/)

A report I found: I WAS BEING WATCHED. In 1961, six-year-old Joyce Halfin was in her bedroom in Ottawa, Canada when she saw strange figures by her window. Suddenly she flew up in the sky over her house. She blacked out and assumed it must have been a crazy dream. But she knew it wasn’t and as she grew up, more encounters occurred. Curious, she tried hypnosis, and learned that in 1961, she was taken onboard by praying mantis-type ETs and physically examined. Later, she was taken again, and they told her how they pilot their craft and other spiritual information.

At 46:30 to 47:30, he talks about Joyce Halfins' experience.

This one is interesting to my because I'm near Ottawa, Canada. I have reached out to her for comment.

In the interview Thomas talks about what the Mantis told Joyce: that their ship is a "light ship." That our space program is doomed to fail. That we would figure out how to travel between dimensions using light - but it's the same light at the "end of the tunnel," when we die or have an NDE. "We use that to travel, and you're going to learn how to do that without dying."

Sounds very complicated. You mean the tunnel of light that I only see when I'm fucking dying - and somehow we bring ships into that space. We take tangible matter and bring it into a field of consciousness - or - we re-create these ships in a consciousness-based arena. The idea of physical locale goes out the window.

It sounds like... teleportation, not space travel. It sounds like "if you teleport your consciousness using the light tunnel the physical stuff [around you?] comes with you." Whether they're coming here in 3D, I don't know, but it's probable.

Do you realize the implications of that?

That means reality is flipped on its head. This would also mean the potentiality of being a master over matter is high. You could probably create matter at that point... or destroy it. You could go anywhere and do anything you could think of.

That means they know your consciousness. That means they know you as a person. They know your spiritual "plan" for this life.

That means our minds create reality... sort of. How exactly do you take a physical ship and shove it into a "light tunnel" that has no mass?

That means that these ships are "catching rides" like surfers on a wave - that it's transporting your consciousness, not your physical being, maybe.

This might mean that all E.T. are not here physically - but are existing inside of your own mental space. Read that again! Not to freak anyone out, but have you seen the movie Smile? That's the only thing that I could think of - an entity existing inside of or inside the bounds of your own consciousness. It would explain quite a few things - why some see these and why most don't - why there's usually a dreamy aspect to abductions and interactions. It would mean there's another reality to explore, one as vast as, if not more vast, than the physical.

That means "the light" is a tangible thing at least at a consciousness level.

That means, possibly, that these E.T. are actually from a more-so mental-arena than a physical one. What that could mean is that one person could see an E.T. while another standing beside them doesn't. It could mean that our entire interaction with E.T. is a spiritual one, one that transcends physicality at a consciousness level instead of a physical level.

If they know your life plan, they know it's what you want, so they're unlikely to interfere - making this a sort of undisclosed prison without bars. Not in the sense that some entity has put us here, but you've put you here, and they're respecting that.

There's a lot of things that can supposed from being told that they're using "the light tunnel" to travel. It would mean you could time-travel too. There's so much here to unpack from that small statement if this is true. If I found the right Joyce Halfin she has her own talk show under the name Joyce Aldrich.