The Empty

SpoilerSeason 15

This post is just gonna be a rant about how much I hate the Empty. The acting, the writing, the lore - none of it worked for me. Out of the three actors that played the Empty, the only performance I didn't mind is that of Rachel Miner (s15). Misha in s13 and the actress who played Dumah in s14 didn't work for me at all. No shade to their acting abilities, Misha's good and I've seen Dumah's actress in another show and she was fantastic - this was clearly an issue of directing. Why oh why are they acting like that (especially in s14)? None of the three performances feel cohesive either, they all feel like a different character.

The dialogue writing is another thing. Bearable in s14-15, but s13 was shockingly bad. I just cannot imagine an entity that's been asleep for all eternity talking like that. Maybe that was the writers' way to establish the Empty as its own distinct character, but I hated it.

Finally, the lore. It's absurd. The Empty is a place - why is it also its own character? It's like if there was a character who was the personification of Heaven or Hell itself. That never happened, duh, because they're places. Also, iirc it was never even explained why angels and demons go to the Empty after they die. What makes them special? Did God arrange for them to have their own personal cemetery? Why? And how does Lucifer know a ritual out of the Empty if only Cas has ever left it and he was let go?

Rant over. What do you guys think?

Posted Sep 14, 2026, 7:54 PM UTC

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