Elbaph Alternative Ideas?

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FlamesOfDesperation created this GOATED post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Piratefolk/comments/1wmczph/zoro_chapter_break_zoro_chapter_again_break_then/

It encapsulated all of my complaints so well about this arc, it make me awaken my Big Mad-Triggered Haki. Wanted to see what you all think of my very long response for a slightly different Elbaph Arc. Please post all thoughts and your own idea down below, thank you! Here's my Response which kinda blend in a old theory I posted on here like a month ago:

"You pretty much, you just summed it all up, but the Theory Piece bros love this type of nonsensical shit. Sitting around pondering about ideas because Oda spent 28+ years feeding us scraps and repeats with little fuck nuggets of information. Zoro got nothing but... if I just think about CoC, I will win! Sanji got nothing but ass pulls and even worse: OMFG! These Elbaph kids are about to drown, but I can't hit Zaza because she's a woman... Killingham it's you I must defeat!!!

Meaning, while 30 kids are dead as his character and he got a two-panel flashback like Kaido: Sanji, you got the potential to use CoC, because plot armor and Oda is tired of writing this shit, even though nobody forced him too. Shonen Jump just let their cash "hoe" I-mean cow graze in the sea of mediocrity.

Cut to "final battle"... Luffy you can't keep acting stupid and goofy this is multi-generational war! STFU, Gaban out Zaddy Luffy never changed, he never gives up, that's his shinobi way! Wait, what? I mean he's the same dude being an emperor never made him arrogant, we won't give us, because he's... Usopp sybau, like forever. You got a petty Observation Haki unlock three arcs ago with zero development.

Elseworld Elbaph Arc Theory: Oda could of made this arc about Usopp finding out Shanks arrived to test Luffy, but Yasopp bailed because the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. So what happens next: Usopp moans and cries, but his nakama like Chopper and Brook, and Jinbe cheer him up... but then they get interrupted by Dorry and Brogy who are: Stop crying, fam! You're God Usopp, the Brave Warrior of the Sea! So now we get Usopp training day and night with punches and training his Observation Haki like a madman for weeks while fighting against fodder giants and the children.

You thought I was done? Meanwhile, we got Luffy who gets defeated by Shanks, but he smiles and acknowledges his skill of becoming a great pirate, but Luffy tells Shanks he can't give him the hat back because he still wants to surpass him and that he's his goal. Amazing emotional and epic moments in seeing shanks and luffy fight seriously in a Davy Back Fight for... Bartolommeo! Shanks sparred the captain and a few of his men, foring Bart to join his crew, and they sealed the deal by killing the Luffy Ship which is like what the Going Merry for Bartolomeo!

Bart now grows as a character because his actions led to the death of his ship and crew. After being defeated, Barto escapes and Shanks tells Gaban he's leaving Luffy in his hands, train him if you think he's worthy. So now we get Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji together having fun while fighting against each other. Franky is off with Vegapunk getting upgrades which causes him to look like his pre-timeskip version followed by Shanks departing telling Luffy next time they meet it will be for the One Piece. We spend like 8 more chapters having some real crew downtime, training, some lore... next thing you know BOOM!

Income the Gods Knight like 1 week later, Gunko and Shamrock. "Shanks what are you doing here, fam? You just left?" Giants get sliced up and ragdolled. Usopp will later get his moment to shine as he not only calls out Imu, but when imu arrives he stand in front of the King of the World and proclaims: "I am Usopp and Elbaph will never be slave, you big-lipped bastard!" Then get blasted in the face just like Zoro and Sanji... but he crashes though the ground like cracker. Huh? How is he still alive? Usopp's willpower and fear standing up to king while feeling his Maki, awakens his Armament Haki.

Now we're cooking, baby! Fast-forward to God Valley Flashback, we get like solid seven chapters of Rocks D. Zebec killing a Navy HQ Admiral, facing off against rivals as he wins Davy Back Fights for Kaido and Whitebeard Massive shocker, except it's not: We get to see Newgate pop the trunk on Rock's ass for injuring child Loki: "Don't do that again, Rocks you Jujustu-Kaisen looking motherf$%cker!." Followed by: "Shut up, Newgate you sissy, don't make me thunder-clap them cheeks, boy!" Some cool crew dynamics from Kaido talking to baby Katakuri and Linlin teaching him about Haki during duels.

Cherry on top, we see Rocks fight his way into the Holy Land and talk with Imu, no this weak-ass Simp-Goon-Quest of Off-Screen laziness. All roads lead to a clash of the gods on God Valley. At the end of this arc We see Imu be pushed back and so now he realizes he's got some training of his own to do after getting pushed back to Mariejois where Blackbeard saved the land from the Revolutionary Army, Imu knows who he is, so he's like we'll keep him around to keep tabs on this Davy Jones Bloodline.

Imu drops a bombshell, his Devil's Fruit is not a fruit, it's the source of all fruits, he acquired this power after killing Davy D. Jones. Davy made a deal with the Sea Devil, so after Imu stole the power of the Devil for himself he used his grand alliance and Sea Devil to destroy the Ancient Kingdom, invade his homeland on top the Redline where he led the charge in slaughtering his own kinfolk! But he betrayed The Sea Devil and trapped him with Davy Jones at the Bottom of the Sea: DAVY JONES'S LOCKER! This is why the Devil Fruit are weak when in the water, this is the curse of the Sea Devil.

Davy D. Jones's curse is his descendents carry on his inherited will of dusk or something not evil, but morally grey. This give added depth to both Rock and Blackbeard because their not just some copies, they have their own sense of "justice" a.k.a Dusk. But Teach struggles because of his three souls. So now Imu is like: I gotta awaken this Sea Devil's power or else I'm gonna get cooked before Teach can kill my ass in the final war... after I get beat in the... final war by the Monkey Clan.

It's all over, folks! The day is won... The Will of Dawn is foreve- ZEHAHAHAHA! Imu is the Final Villain, but Blackbeard is the True Final Villain, best of both worlds! This fanfic is not perfect or professional in the slightest, but at least we get more in this example than this mythical geriatric shit, just saying. We got some cool moments, but it's like Oda is leaving so much on the table and just walking past missed opportunities while smiling. He's literally playing with the legacy of his magnum opus... why?"

Posted Sep 21, 2026, 6:17 PM UTC

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