One Country Saved Its Jews. Were They Just Better People? Denmark in the Holocaust
newrepublic.com/article/115670/denmark-holoca...Posted Feb 22, 2014, 5:44 PM UTC
Posted Feb 22, 2014, 5:44 PM UTC
This is mentioned in the article:
The Danish response to the Nazis illuminates a crucial fact about the Holocaust: the Germans did not always force the issue of extermination where they faced determined resistance from occupied populations. In Bulgaria, as Tzvetan Todorov has shown in his aptly titled book The Fragility of Goodness, the Jews were saved because the king of Bulgaria, the Orthodox Church, and a few key Bulgarian politicians refused to assist the German occupiers. Why did a similar civic sense of solidarity not take root in other countries? In Holland, why did 80 percent of Dutch Jews perish? And what about France: why did liberty, equality, and fraternity not apply to the citizens driven from their homes by French police and sent to deportation and death? These questions become harder to answer in the light of the Danish and Bulgarian counterexamples. One possible explanation is that the German occupation’s presence in Denmark was lighter than in either France or Holland. The Danes, like the Bulgarians, kept their king and maintained their own government throughout the occupation. Self-government gave them a capacity to defend Jews that was never possible in the occupied zones of France or Holland.
Not sure what's going on with the title.
Map of europe Jewish Holocaust death posted in mapporn this month. http://en.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1vm3pe/jewish_holocaust_death_toll_as_a_percentage_of/
More whitewashing of the Dutch record. They had the highest ratio of Jews killed in World War Two of any European country and have sold the world the idea that they fought a brave resistance
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp412.htm
Simon Kuper covers this in some detail in his excellent book, ajax, the Dutch, the war.
sold the world the idea that they fought a brave resistance
I'm not sure they have, it's widely historically recorded how the Dutch resistance was highly infiltrated and wholly compromised. When Otto Skorzeny wanted some Sten Guns he used Dutch codes and radios to request an airdrop of them.
Possibly one of the worst titles for...whatever it is supposed to be.
This has a surprising number of downvotes. It's an interesting question/subject, and a well written article.
I too think the subject is interesting, but I also think the title could be seem as offensive to other countries of Europe who also didn't massacre their Jewish population, like the Swedish, the Fascist from both Italy and Spain, the Swiss, or your own country.
I think it's pretty clear that it's not talking about the whole of Europe. But, even with the caveat, I agree the title is a bit odd.
Yeah, but WW2 is a touchy subject, and on Saturday night the happy people have better things to do than posting, so we only have the angry ones, the loners and the drunks, and we are picky.
Well, the topic has "one country only" in the title when there were several European countries that saved their Jews from holocaust one way or another. After false claim like that you don't really expect people to read the article?
I presume they're not counting Finland because the country wasn't occupied by the Nazis. In the same way as Sweden and Britain.
There is Bulgaria as another example, but that is mentioned in the article, so I'm not sure what the title is referring to. Anyway, it is an interesting question, what separates the small number of countries that rescued their Jewish population from the rest of the countries that didn't.
There is Bulgaria as another example
Well, Bulgaria did ship to Auschwitz the Jews from the conquered territories (Macedonia), it only saved the Jews from its own territory.
conquered territories
The conquered territories were under joint Nazi military administration.
But the title revers to "its jews", so conquered territories wouldn't count.
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Albania grew their jewish population tenfold
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Albania#World_War_II
It wasnt many jews but It was an excellent endeavour.
The Danes were also very decent, they were assisted however by the local Germans who tipped them off that the Nazis were coming to collect the jews.
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In context of how many Jews there actually were, Denmark didn't save nearly as much as many other countries in Europe.
Wow. It has to be mentioned that the author, Bo Lidegaard, editor of the Politiken newspaper, is already pretty annoying to listen to when he is on TV as a talking head, but this takes it to a whole other level.
It is a remarkable story, that most of Denmark’s Jews survived the war. But the fact there were only about 7.500 Jews in the country, most living around Copenhagen also made it a bit more of a manageable situation, and it makes it pretty hard to compare it to other countries' reaction to the final solution. As already mentioned in this thread, it is quite offensive to single out the Danes as specifically good people and in the process belittling the sacrifice of so many others during the war.
Another interesting fact about Denmark during the war: The place where most Danes died in combat was on the Eastern front fighting for the Nazis. This on the other hand doesn't mean that the Danes were worse people than others during the war.
You didn't read the article.
You say "it is quite offensive to single out the Danes as specifically good people and in the process belittling the sacrifice of so many others during the war." So let me quote a couple paragraphs where the author writes that what happened in Denmark was not because they were better people:
And here the author disagrees with Lidegaard:
Wow, blast from the past.
Before we go on, just to make sure you realize that my problem isn't with the article or it's author, Michael Ignatieff. I'm critising the claims by Bo Lidegaard, author of this book, which Ignatieff is reviewing in the article. Claims such as:
The article is fine, the author of the book it is reviewing is not.
Ah, fair enough.