Did you guys hear about "Debian User Group Plays Pokemon?"
It's taken them twenty days and they still haven't picked a starter.
Posted Mar 1, 2014, 9:45 PM UTC
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Meanwhile, Ubuntu has chosen a starter, will work on it for a few years, and then erase the game and choose the Pokemon Debian will finally choose so they can use the same moves as Debian.
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Only the starter that debian chooses wasn't in Red/Blue and it was Ubuntu's daring choice of Charmander that inspired the creation of the new game with the new starter.
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More like
Only the starter that debian chooses wasn't in X/Y and it was Ubuntu's daring choice of Mewtwo that inspired the creation of the new game with the new starter.
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I heard one guy had to step out for a few days to cool off because the majority didn't want to pick Charmander. His main reasoning being that Charmander eventually gets Fire-Flying dual typing further down the road, whereas both other choices only gets single-typing. Opponents criticize his weakness to both of the first two gyms, meaning his dual-type advantage will take significant investment before it actually materalizes.
Bulbasaur supporters primarily talk about his type advantage against the first two gyms, making him the obvious choice when playing only Red/Blue and not planning to trade to later games in the series.
Squirtle supporters advocate his strength against the first gym and not being weak to the second gym, making him a good well-rounder, not having the specialization in R/B that Bulbasaur has, but also lacking the glaring weaknesses of Charmander, while still being a valuable trade to future games due to the fact that good water pokemon tend to be rare until the late stages of the adventure, giving him good trade potential to Gold/Silver and even Ruby/Sapphire.
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Actually bulbasaur/ivysaur/venasaur have grass-posion typing the only starter with only one type is squirtle
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Whoops, I could have sworn Venusaur had only grass-typing in the original and was retroactively dual-typed in later games. Well, now my entire analogy is shot.
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No, the only pure Grass-type in gen 1 was Tangela. The majority of grass-types were Grass/Poison.
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That's interesting. So effectively, Psychic is super effective against Grass, except in the case of Tangela. I never realized that.
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Also venusaur is the only starter used in competitive battles.
I guess LordSocky is an ubuntu user.
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I guess LordSocky is an ubuntu user.
Nope, I've been clean for about two years.
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LFS? If no, not clean enough.
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"I've been clean", oh lord, love it. You deserve an upvote.
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Charizard X/Y is often used these days, though.
Sneaky Pebbles please ;_;
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In generation 3 if you train Charmander to level 13 it learns a steel type move which it can use to sweep the first gym. You can then get a Paras in Mt. Moon or Oddish/Bellsprout in Routes 24 and 25 which can be trained up for the second gym.
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Or Pikachu in Viridian Forest.
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Except you can't trade between R/S/E and G/S/C
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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO STOP POKING HOLES IN MY ANALOGY
JUST LET ME BE WRONG IN PEACE
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You can't now, but you could once.
My bad. I was getting mixed up with the time capsule.
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sheepishly raises hand I think a fair amount of the Linux part of this analogy was lost on me. Would someone mind explaining?
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Upstart (Charmander) was being pushed very hard by a few guys, the big selling point was that it was portable to Debian GNU/kFreeBSD, an alternative kernel to Linux while still being Debian, while systemd (Bulbasaur) was not (hence the dual typing joke). However, the task of actually porting it was on Debian, not Ubuntu, and it would be a significant investment of time and effort to achieve this. Upstart has also been criticized over a few serious and near-unfixable design flaws (weakness to first two gyms).
Systemd (Bulbasaur) relies on Linux-specific kernel features and cannot be ported, however it is a much more robust and powerful solution, thus the joke that Bulbasaur is more appropriate because he is strong against both early gyms, but isn't really valuable for trading.
OpenRC (Squirtle) is readily portable (useful for trading because water pokemon are rare and valuable early in the game) and is strong against the first gym and basically stalemates on the second gym, making him well rounded and still valuable for trading. But basically nobody cares about OpenRC, nor Squirtle, anyways.
Honestly my joke got shakier and shakier the further into it I went. The original idea was the Charmander bit, and the rest I tacked on as an afterthought. Not to mention getting a couple of facts wrong.
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Thank you for explaining! I appreciate the joke AND I learned something!
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Slackware plays Mario. Yeah it's a little less up to date, but it never breaks.
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Slackware's releases have the same update policy as Debian Stable. Don't upgrade things except for security updates. It also has more frequent releases, so is actually generally more up-to-date than Debian Stable. And as far as Slackware Current goes, who packages an ESR release for a development branch? I'll give you a hint: not PJV.
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Um Slackware is never really out of date, it just has 1980s configuration and management, I think that's why people criticize it.
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To be fair, though, us Slackers still don't have PAM, will probably never have systemd, and Wayland is unlikely.
But it's the most "Unix-like" of the Linux distros, apparently, so we've got that going for us, which is nice.
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I don't think many of us are especially prone to complaining about not having PAM, systemd, Wayland, etc.
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True, though Wayland is cool enough for me to be excited about, and centralized authentication in an enterprise environment is a bit of a nightmare without PAM.
No complaints about the lack of systemd, though :)
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The guys over at Arch Linux tried to play Pokemon X, but the 3DS emulator is still alpha. The stream should be back up soon, he's recompiling it.
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I think you meant Gentoo.
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You can compile software on arch too, ya know.
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You can compile software on windows too, ya know.
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Are we making a list now?
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Obviously. But since the joke is playing off the concept of having to compile software before it's run, then it would have been better to target a source based distro - like Gentoo, as opposed to Arch, which distributes binaries.
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Packages that come from the AUR generally have to be compiled.
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I was torn between Arch and Gentoo once I wrote "compiling". It was more meant as a "bleeding edge software" kind of joke.
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Wait, there's a 3DS emulator already?
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And roms?
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Roms wouldn't surprise me as they're just a copy of the game cartridge.
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Is there a real non bullshit emulator out?
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I would have already bought a 3ds if there seemed like there was any chance of homebrew on it.
Oh well, x11 works on my android and there are some good games there.
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No. But there is at least one pretty well-made scam fake.
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Sadly no, I was just picking the most up to date thing to make the Arch joke. But we can dream.
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Aww, damn. I would probably require an inordinate amount of CPU power anyways.
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We Arch users don't get what the fuss is about. I mean, if you want to level up your pokemon, just look up the Arch wiki and type pokmon -Syu, and if the pokemon you want is not in the original 151, you can find them in AUR.
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Archarchy and Debianocracy are very appropriate puns.
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I think "AnArchy" is sufficiently punny for our purposes.
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We could also say "Debocracy".
Anarchy vs. Debocracy.
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What's Pokemon?
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I don't know, I'm not really into pokemon.
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To be fair, that's pretty much how I reacted when I heard about the release of "Precise Pangolin".
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A pretty niche game that not many people know about. Digimon is a game that more people know about. Digimon X and Y just came out a couple of months ago.
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No, you're thinking of Pokemon. A digimon is a little plastic egg with a screen and game where you simulate feeding and taking care of a small pet.
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No, you're thinking of Tamogatchi. A Digimon was cardboard disk you would collect (they varied in rarity and value), and you would stack them and then hit your friends' stacks with your "slammer" (a larger, metal disk), hoping to flip them over so you'd win them.
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No, you're thinking of Pogs. A Digimon was a metal spinning top you'd launch into a plastic bowl with another person's top and try to be the last one to fall over.
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clap clap clap
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I don't understand this, can anybody explain the joke?
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Something on r/gaming.
A user hosted a twitch stream, which is just live-streaming of game play, of Pokemon where the users controlled the character by typing a command in the chat (e.g. "up", "down", "start", "a", etc.). While it was a good idea in theory, it ended up blowing up and having millions of users playing at one time, so basically it's just like constantly pressing every button at once. If I recall correctly, it took them about 15 days to beat the final four.
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16 days, 7 hours, 45 or 48mins, depending on if you count the time taken to scroll through the final conversations, or just consider it a win once they beat blue.
As a side note they couldn't resume the game because the clock was over 255 hours, causing it to crash on resuming.
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Its a joke because Twitch plays pokemon contains alot of people all trying to play pokemon all at once, ending in the game (especially in anarchy mod) crazy and make slow progress!
Debian is usually extremely slow making decisions, the init system was the most recent one choosing between upstart and system-D, this has taken them forever to make a choice!
The joke is that they are both slow, tedious and seem unending!
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Well done.
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This is a better fit for r/linuxcirclejerk
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I hear that the CentOS group is just following Red Hat's decisions.
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Well, yeah, but then Red Hat's stream is just the Fedora stream, but with really bad lag.
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I thought you were going to make a comment about Pokemon being almost two decades behind the times.
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"Debian plays X" is an apt metaphor for how debian progresses! ;-)
It gets there in the end!!
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no one in this subreddit will ever get the joke since the twitch player requires flash
http://livestreamer.tanuki.se/en/latest/
Thank you for this. Excellent.
Used it to stream TPP to VLC since VLC fullscreens much better than my web browser does. And it's just a lot better tbh.
I love you so much right now. You have no idea. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
There's also an XBMC plugin.
just a heads up to everyone using this, it does not show any ads, hence the streamer does not get any revenue out of it
You Sir, are a god.
I thought OP was funny, but you take the prize after all!
I just learned about http://beta.twitch.tv/ today, it seems to have less flash.
I know it's a joke, but for the past several years flash support has been perfect as far as I can tell. Probably time this joke was retired.
Unity support however... (It's a really ironic name now that I think if it)
Except that Adobe stopped updating the Linux version, so the only options for Linux users are Google's Pepper-based Flash and Pipelight's Flash support.
Flash is terrible software anyway. We should be pushing to have it replaced and killed.
We can thank Apple for helping kill off flash by not supporting it on the iThings. The mobile web in general is helping kill off flash rather well.
Indeed.
All hail Silverlight!
It still crashes a lot on my machines (debian x86 and x86_64). Tremendous CPU usage. Not updated by adobe and a lot of security holes. Far from perfect.
Chrome ships with an embedded Flash.
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