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So many True Detective comparisons, but lookie what I found.

So many True Detective comparisons, but lookie what I found.

Posted Mar 13, 2014, 4:29 AM UTC

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elNuit•
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BluntSmokinAnus•

Yeah, i noticed that and thought of Twin Peaks, the director or creator ( i forgot which) did say that he took notes on Twin Peaks and put it in the show

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whyever•

For all its goofy moments, Twin Peaks sure could be creepy and the owls were always creepy.

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tronbrain•

I watched a few clips of True Detective, though I have not watched the show itself. To be honest, I think it is over-hyped and overrated. Too derivative. I am not a fan of McConaughey. He overacts, is too melodramatic. I am more a fan of Woody Harrelson, though.

Most everything about True Detective strikes me as heavy-handed, over-the-top, shock and controversy for its own sake, and not for advancing the greater narrative arc. I think it is too generous to allow any comparison between True Detective and Twin Peaks. It is not nearly on the same level.

But anyway, yes, this is likely a Twin Peaks reference. Though owls are a symbol of many things to many people in many cultures, Lynch and Frost brought it more into the public consciousness by its use in Twin Peaks, as the familiar of BoB, and a harbinger of evil. I do not think other cultures viewed owls as typically associated with evil.

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squatting•

...but you've never seen the show...

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tronbrain•

I've watched enough of it to get a sense of it.

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SirLuciousL•

Jesus, I didn't think anyone could judge a show that much from just watching clips.

True Detective is an incredible show, and all of your "complaints" are baseless, since you've never actually watched the first episode.

You think the show is over the top and relies on shock value? C'mon, you obviously haven't watched enough to realize that isn't true at all.

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tronbrain•

You're right. Clips from TV shows are worthless. They may as well do away with them altogether, for you have proclaimed it is nigh impossible to judge anything from them.

Sarcasm aside, I can tell a lot without having to watch the show. For example, I am near certain that the show's writer is a Catholic, due to the reactionary view taken on the subject matter. I am not interested in that. It's boring, pedestrian.

The show is by all appearances is sensational for sensation's sake. A lot of people mistake sensationalism for profundity.

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SirLuciousL•

The main character is atheist, but ok. I don't know where you're seeing a reactionary view, because the show isn't like that at all. The cinematography, acting, dialogue, and style are insanely good. And it's hilarious that you think the show is about shock value, because if anything, it's the complete opposite.

But if you wanna disregard the best TV show in years because of some misguided and horribly off-base judgements, go ahead.

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tronbrain•

It IS reactionary, in a typically Catholic sort of way. And just because the main character is atheist doesn't mean that it couldn't have been written by a Catholic (lemme make an easy prediction - by the end of the show, the atheist finds religion). That you would think that indicates your thinking is shallow.

The show is full of tired, worn cliches. Very formulaic. It has all been done before.

Why don't you do a little research on the writer and tell me I'm wrong? That would be easy. All you are doing is saying your judgment is gospel, and anybody who disagrees is horribly off-base.

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alchemeron•

An owl? The subject of, literally, millennia of symbolism and mythology is automatically a Twin Peaks reference? In a show that's tonally and structurally dissonant?

Seriously?

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unwittyoneliner•
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alchemeron•

Yes, it is. And I'll continue to point out imaginary, pointless connections.

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Syphillitis•

I saw this post more about pointing out a coincidental owl being in a place of evil, not saying DAE NOTICE THIS CRAZY TWIN PEAKS REFERENCE

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helpfulOP•

Bingo.

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alchemeron•

I saw this post more about pointing out a coincidental owl being in a place of evil

Then there are literally thousands of posts that can be made in this sub-Reddit if all it takes is a well-worn cliche to draw a connection.

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Syphillitis•

You are getting really angry about pictures of owls in other shows, you realize that right?

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alchemeron•

I like owls and cultural symbolism. I don't like forced connections just because someone happens to like two otherwise disparate things.

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helpfulOP•

I didn't say anything about agreeing with the comparisons that people have been making between the two shows. In fact, I have dismissed many of them for your same reasoning.

I merely posted the shot, that's on screen for maybe 2-3 seconds, of a highly symbolic figure from TP.

Good grief.

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alchemeron•

a highly symbolic figure from TP

Which is just... an owl. Not an owl in a similarly iconic pose, or in a similar context, or in a similar scene, or even in a similar time of day. Just... an owl.

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Bob_and_Dale•

It looks like it's in the daytime, which is an odd time for an owl to be out. The owl is serving some purpose being there.

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alchemeron•

Yup. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owl#Western_culture

Most of the appearances of an owl during Twin Peaks are at night. The one exception that comes to my mind is when they visit the cabin.

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