Just bring back VAC.

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I'm about ready to give up. A week ago it was maybe one cheater per ten invasions / arena matches. Tonight I managed to invade a total five sinners and four were completely invulnerable to harm.

Everybody's just using the same hacks now and it's getting more and more common now that they know there are absolutely no repercussions. It's not enough that I have to look for co-op opportunities (which is insanely difficult at high soul memory), but after getting that fidelity token, there's now a 80% chance that it's a waste of time because I'll have to black crystal out anyway.

Anyone else seeing this trend?

Posted May 26, 2014, 6:15 PM UTC

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resephSteam: Zenoxio•

Nope. I have 80 hours in the game, still in NG. Mostly doing PVP. I have not seen one hacker.

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FunkMastaJunk•

The only hacker I found was one person I summoned in for The Last Giant. I just hit random signs and noticed I summoned some dude in with a hexxers hood and alonne armor. He used lifedrain patch to kill me. This was on NG

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Scott0047Sunbro•

im pretty sure lifedrain patch affects evryone, thats not a hack. not 100% sure

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FunkMastaJunk•

The hack is that he had lifedrain patch on a NG Last Giant with less than 1000 soul memory

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Scott0047Sunbro•

ah i see

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AirPhforce•

I went to rank 3 dragonbro last night, from scratch, and then spent about two hours in the bells. Started at 3 mil memory, ended at 6.

Not one hacker.

Must just be you.

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AirPhforce•

Also there are repercussions. We see periodic threads from hackers whining about being put on a server with only other cheaters. So if you're only running into other hackers, well....

http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkSouls2/comments/2548p7/pc_theory_on_cheaters_secretly_being_moved_to_a/

http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkSouls2/comments/268jbe/namcobandai_soft_bans/

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RepostThatShitOP•

I don't think it would've been such a gradual increase in proportion. And although such a server is a good idea in principle, I'm pretty sure the "hacker server" is just as much a myth now as it was a little less than a month ago when I first saw it conceived on Reddit.

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vansaltzman•

I am more frustrated when I am carefully managing my soul memory and get slammed with 100k - 400k souls that ruins my progression. I'm looking at you chaos blade, black witches robe, resonant weapon Belfry invader at SM 100k...

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VnzuelanDude•

For being this early in the game's life, the amount of hacking is disappointing.

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hey_aaapple•

We are talking about FROM. Devs that failed to code stuff to be independent from framerate, one of the first thing you learn to do as a programmer. And you are asking them to implement VAC. Activision uses VAC for CoD games, they have a lot more developers that write code that is ten times better from a technical standpoint, a lot more money and a lot more experience. They always fail to do a decent job, and have to rely on player reports and manual bans for the most part.

Btw, dark souls 2 has likely some kind of sanity check on your characters, but I haven't figured the details. Should at least annoy the obvious cheaters.

Edit: if they wanted to use any kind of AC software, they should go with fairfight. That stuff is great

Edit2: if you downvote, have the decency to comment and explain what is supposedly wrong with my comment.

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FunkMastaJunk•

I think it's probably something along the "You're not wrong, you're just an asshole" things. I didn't down vote you personally, but I'm not surprised others did.

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hey_aaapple•

Why this might be correct, why was my comment asshole-ish? We all know that FROM writes poor code, they still do a lot of good stuff.

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FunkMastaJunk•

Reading back your comment isn't entirely that bad. At first glance though, it kind of comes off condescending and not in a particularly constructive way. I don't want to speak for everyone but that was my initial perception.

If I were to reword your sentence to get across the point that you're saying I would say something like:

"While it would be nice if FROM could get VAC working, it's a complicated system that gives even other well funded and experienced teams of developers a hard time. In all honesty it would have just been better if they went with <insert AC software here> - It's something a budding PC developer team could really use more effectively"

It gets your point across without sounding too critical or condescending of FROM. Like I said, it was never that you were wrong in the first place, it's just that the way you worded it (and taking your target audience into account as well - mostly FROM supporters) came across in an "asshole-ish" manner.

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hey_aaapple•

Ah ok, I just wanted to make clear that VAC is very tough to implement and not even that good.

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notasinglenamegiven•

No idea why you got downvoted. Probably fanboys being buttmad that someone has the audacity to speak the truth about FROM. Those pink sunglasses that so many wear seem to blind their vision (edgy, I know). This game has so many flaws and more are discovered every week but people just ignore them because "PRAIZE LE SUUUN XDDDDD".

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