Issues putting a hard drive in the optical bay of my early 2011 MacBook Pro

I'm asking for help for my brother! I recently switched over to a dual hard-drive setup, and it worked perfectly. However, my brother is having issues.

First off, here is the hard drive we are trying to put in, using this caddy. Both worked perfectly when doing this to my computer. If we can get this HDD to work, we'd like to put this SSD in the main hard drive bay.

He has an early 2011 15" MacBook Pro. We read up online, and people said that the optical bay for his model only has SATA II, while the main bay has SATA III, which means he should put his HDD in the optical bay, and the SSD in the main bay. He wants to put the HDD in the optical drive area, and then transfer everything over to the new HDD, before putting the SSD into the main bay.

The issue is that when we put the HDD in the optical bay, the computer can basically not recognize or use it. If plug the HDD in via a usb cord, he can initialize it and erase it to Mac OSX Extended (Journaled) perfectly fine. It only takes a few seconds, and as far as I can tell, it works. However, when he actually puts the hard drive in the optical bay, it either doesn't show up in disk utility, or it shows up, but can't be accessed or changed.

We left it in, and it showed up after 30 minutes or so. When he tried to initialize it, however, the computer said it'd take 5 hours to do. The progress bar ended up getting half way done, and then stopping, so that didn't even work.

We thought that maybe it could be a firmware issue due to this post that we found, but we looked and definitely have the newest firmware version (2.7, I believe). Also, I don't think that thread applies to us, since we aren't even beginning to deal with the SSD yet, just the HDD.

We also tried just initializing it before putting it into the computer, but the computer doesn't seem to recognize it correctly. The name is changed from "New HDD" to "disk1s1", and we can't actually access it. That's when we tried initializing it again, just for the progress bar to get stuck.

Looking online, this setup should work. Tons of people have done it, even using the hard drive we are using. We aren't even trying to put a SSD in yet, which is where most people have problems with the 2011 model. This is just a regular hard drive! I don't understand what could be wrong, and could use some help!

If there's anywhere else you think I should post this, just let me know!

Thank you!

Posted Jun 27, 2014, 6:51 PM UTC

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Troll__McLure•

He has an early 2011 15" MacBook Pro. We read up online, and people said that the optical bay for his model only has SATA II, while the main bay has SATA III, which means he should put his HDD in the optical bay, and the SSD in the main bay. He wants to put the HDD in the optical drive area, and then transfer everything over to the new HDD, before putting the SSD into the main bay.

I'm not sure this is correct. AFAIK both SATA ports in the 2011 models are supporting SATA 3 (6 Gb/s) and only the negotiated speed with the default SuperDrive is 3 Gb/s.

Try it the other way around, keep the original hard drive in its place (it will be also protected by the sudden motion sensor there) and put the SSD into the second drive bay.

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Have you tried an SMC reset yet? A lot of SATA link negotiation issues can be solved that way.

Also, can you post a screenshot of what you see in System Information under the SATA/SATA Express section? (Hold option, then click the Apple menu to easily access system info) I'm curious what your negotiated link speed is for the optical drive bay with the hard drive installed.

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TheTreeManOP•

My brother informed me that he reset the SMC, and didn't notice any changes. I can't get a screenshot for about two hours, but I'll post it here once I can!

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TheTreeManOP•

We turned it off, held those buttons along with the power button, then released every button, followed by pressing the power button again to start up the computer.

Is that a full reset?

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TakeabyteACA•

You're better off not doing it or cough up the cash for a second SSD.

The problem with your rig and an HDD in that slot is that there is not failsafe when you move the MacBook around. In the standard storage slot the computer will halt the HDD functions when you move the computer around to save itself from damaging the disk. In the optical bay this dose not happen and I guarantee your HDD will die in a few months.

Also, putting SATA III hardware in the optical bay of your rig has mixed results.

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/DDAMBS0GB/#comp_notes

Testing has demonstrated that Apple factory hardware does not reliably support a 6G (6Gb/s) Solid State Drive or Hard Disk Drive in the optical bay of 2011 MacBook Pros (ModeI ID8,1; 8,2; 8,3). If your OWC Data Doubler bundle comes with a 6G drive, you should ONLY install that drive in the main drive bay and utilize the Data Doubler to re-task your existing drive or install a new 3G SSD or HDD in the optical bay. PRE-2011 models can utilize a 6G drive in the optical bay, but will do so at a reduced 3G (3Gb/s) speed.

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