Windows Phone’s future at Microsoft | Pocketnow
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pocketnow.comPosted Jul 20, 2014, 4:19 PM UTC
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pocketnow.comWhat a terrible editorial. I love Pocket Now, especially Michael Fisher, but Adam is pulling out speculation from what could be anything.
It is highly unlikely that they are "pulling the plug" on Windows Phone, given their substantial efforts in the last few months. It would be a bad business move, and an even worse blow to the loyalists, hurting their image (in which they are trying to already repair)
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It is highly unlikely that they are "pulling the plug" on Windows Phone,
That's not true. It's not just highly unlikley that they will "pull the plug", it's a given that they aren't "pulling the plug" on Windows Phone, and anyone who suggests otherwise is either trolling or a moron.
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Came here to say that as well. This writer's level of bias is astonishing.
While it's not out of the realm of possibilities that Microsoft may revamp or change direction with their mobile endeavors, I can't see them abandoning one of the most lucrative tech markets in existence.
The only unfortunate thing is that they were "late to the party," as they say, with Windows Phone. If they'd launched 8 to be more in line with what 8.1 is and pushed harder to get the big apps on board, things would be much further ahead than they are now.
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This whole scenario he has thrown up is completely improbable. The consensus has been forever that they will merge Windows RT and Windows Phone. That doesn't mean Windows Phone is going to "disappear." Adam is a pretty terrible writer and videographer. He never has anything interesting to say. They need to swap like half their staff out, but they won't because a certain portion of them just pander to their respective iOS, Android, or whatever audiences which must provide enough page views. I pretty much see every single article [title] because I subscribe their RSS feed which I go over daily, and the filtering for the garbage stuff is at about 75 garbage/25 read at this point. I can't believe they get paid for this most of the time. Most of these people don't love learning about technology, they're just your everyday tech forum monkey.
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Clickbait.
Do not click, do not share, or spread by any medium. Only view this article if you have an adblocker installed. People need to not be paid to spread this bullshit.
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seems like its just trying to say something controversial to gain attention. even his wording is inflammatory, no one ever said windows phone was an "experiment".
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I Love Windows 8 and Windows phone why they say that people dont like Windows?
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It's possible that MS might pull the plug on Windows Phone - but there's no way it'd happen this year.
They need to give it at least 2 years to grow in India, China etc, while also evolving the platform and hardware. This is just clickbait-y speculation.
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I really doubt MS will pull the plug. They are focusing on convergence and windows 9 will be all about that. They didn't invest billions of dollars in Nokia and WP just to pull the plug.
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They're not pulling the plug. They're gaining in market share in developed countries (like in the UE) and developing nations (India and China). They're kicking ass all over Latin America. Just about the only place where they're only making modest gains instead of massive gains is the United States. They just signed a dozen new OEMs. They're gaining momentum. They have a plan to unify WP with Windows RT and a plan for universal apps that run on WP, RT, Windows Pro, and Xbox. Giving up on WP would be essentially giving up on 1/3 of their strategy for the future. It's not going to happen.
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And yet, for all that, they're still at less than 4% global market share.
Don't get me wrong. I really hope WP not only survives, but thrives. But MS are in a really difficult situation. How do you convince people in large numbers to adopt a smartphone platform when there are already two well-developed ecosystems to choose from? That obviously results in the vicious cycle of app availability and adoption that we talk about so much on this sub.
The important thing to note is that MS is a different company under Nadella. I don't think he's going to be happy to burn money year after year like Ballmer was. It's quite possible that Windows Phone will simply become an enterprise-focused platform meant to push the broader idea of MS platforms in general. I wouldn't at all say that's impossible that two years from now, Microsoft will accept what is probably true: that there isn't a real way to disrupt iOS and Android in the short term.
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Where do you dipshits find articles like this? Seriously? What few factual assertations that it makes (that Microsoft has 4% marketshare in emerging markets) are completely wrong. In more than a few countries the WP marketshare has surpassed Apple's, and we're talking about European countries, not India or China.
But more to the point...last week Microsoft announced the layoffs of 12,500 Nokia employees and the discontinuation of Nokia's Asha and X lines of phones. If they were going to kill off WP, they would have announced the layoff of all 30,000 Nokia employees and the discontinuation of all three of Nokia's phone product lines. Actually, that's not true. What they would have done is probably spin off what they just spent 9 months getting regulatory approval to spend $7 billion dollars to by.
Seriously, who is this fucktard called Adam Doud? He hasn't got even the faintest hint of a clue when it comes to Windows Phone.
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Actually, that's not true. What they would have done is probably spin off what they just spent 9 months getting regulatory approval to spend $7 billion dollars to b(u)y.
That's crazy talk, who would buy a smartphone OEM only to re-sell it!
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You do realize there's a difference between a couple of years and a couple of months, right? You do realize that the driving force behind Google's acquisition of Motorla Mobility was to acquire their patent portfolio, which they didn't sell to Lenovo, right? You do realiza that your understanding of both situations is flawed and superficial, right?
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It was a joke mate, calm your tits.
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And stuff like THIS is why I stopped going to Pocketnow about a year ago. Ridiculous.
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But Michael Fischer is such fun to listen to though.
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It makes no sense for MS to pull the plug. They get revenue from both Apple and Google anyway, and now with the. Nokia acquisition they get even more! Oh, wait a second I didn't think of that.... Shit, goodbye windows phone, well done Elop you took Nokia out of the frame.
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What revenue tho? They give away WP and most of Nokia handsets being sold are the low cost phones with low margins where there is very little profit.
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I thought the article was ok. He is just spit-balling at possibilities. You never know.
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He is just spit-balling at possibilities. You never know.
He's not spit-balling possibilities. He's making up impossibilities and pretending that they have some sort of basis in fact.
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Nothing in this article was outlandish. He didn't say anything would happen.
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Really? You don't think that outlandish speculation that has zero basis is outlandish?
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What speculation exactly? He is just saying there are different possibilities and he is entitled to think that if he thinks its plausible.
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People don’t like Windows and they really don’t like Windows 8
Well, people must hate OSx and absolutely DESPISE Linux then since Windows 8 alone has a greater consumer marketshare (according to Net Applications data) than both put together...
This is an awful article.
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only recently started delving into hardware
Wtf that was 1982
Glad I don't follow pocket now any more. Wasn't Brandon Miniman the original dude?
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This is such a ridiculous article. Poorly written. There is no way Microsoft would EVER let google and apple duke it out by themselves.
Exactly. This guy says WP has only 4 % because of emerging markets. Such BS except when Germany, UK, hell whole Europe are Emerging markets, too. Such an idiot.
Sailfish, Tizen, Firefox OS and BB10 still exist. Others too. It is not like without Windows Phone the world will lack for contenders with diverse and interesting approaches.
I don't think that's what he was saying. When you think "The big 3", it's Microsoft, Google, Apple.
No matter what category, these three are competing. Microsoft won't allow a fight to be between Apple and Google only. They're going to stay in it.
Amazon may muscle their way into that conversation if they haven't already.
That is Android.
Except none of those are going anywhere. BB10 might if Windows Phone weren't around. The other three don't have a snowballs chance in hell. Well Tizen might for the $35 Asian crap poverty phones that currently run Android 2.3 with terrible skins. Sailfish is awesome but will never go anywhere. So is Firefox OS. You forgot Ubuntu Phone, also very cool, also has no chance whatsoever. Microsoft is a huge, dominant tech company with 90% of the desktop/laptop computer market on lock, tentacles everywhere, a bottomless warchest of cash and just bought arguably the best phone hardware manufacturer in the world and even THEY are struggling to get 4-5% market share because they got such a late start and didn't move quickly enough once they got out of the gate. What kind of shot do the others have? The only reason WP even has a chance is because of the rest of MS's ecosystem and because MS has the money to stick with it relentlessly because they have huge revenue streams coming from places that have nothing to do with phones.
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BB10 is the old dog that won't fucking die.
I hate that in Canada, I still see it on like, 1/10 people. I see it as much as Windows Phone, but I know it's only because only 6 or 7 years ago it was to mobile in Canada what Microsoft is to desktop computing.
I agree. It's too bad because they made a good product. But they fell asleep at the switch/rested on their laurels for too long/insert analogy here. The only value left in Blackberry nee RIM now is their patent portfolio and maybe BBM. I like having choices though and this is unfortunate. I would have loved to have had BB10 as a viable choice, especially since I don't really love iOS or Android.
Lel its funny that you guys have to yell yourselves wp is good to feel better about your choice of phone.
I like WP. I don't have to "yell myself" anything. I understand why people like iOS or Android more though and I agree WP doesn't have enough of the right apps. Just doesn't matter to me though since I have everything I need. I don't think WP is the best phone OS. I think it's the best phone OS for ME.
I said "and others". Microsoft is a huge company and has spent tens of billions of dollars trying to compete in mobile. An honest assessment is that despite that, they are flat at 3%. If you want to say the others have no chance because they don't have the billions, that is an interesting opinion. Another person with that view might increase that scope just a hair and include Windows Phone in the non-contenders as well.
Microsoft just laid off half of their phones headcount this week. Half. That would suggest an organizational realignment in line with losing fewer billions of dollars per year on this effort. If you are staying even at the current spend, one might anticipate a decline at the lower spend, especially with the confusion such a severe loss brings - unless you think the prior efforts were inefficient and lacking quality.
Edit: errors to efforts.
Actually, only 40%. And many (most?) of those positions were made redundant after the acquisition because Microsoft doesn't need two sets of salespeople, two sets of finance people, two sets of HR people, etc. Also, they announced that they're killing Asha and the X, which further accounts for a fair number of the former Nokia staffers being laid off. Anyone trying to make the case that layoffs at the former Nokia represent any sort of weakening in Microsoft's support of WP needs their head checked.
Is it any wonder... that site is as bad as BGR