Factory switches to rolling release development model
news.opensuse.org/2014/07/29/factory-rolling-...
news.opensuse.orgPosted Jul 29, 2014, 2:08 PM UTC
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news.opensuse.orgIf there were a Factory repo for AMD flrgx I'd switch.
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x-post and other comments here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2c1it4/opensuse_factory_moves_to_rolling_release/
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That's awesome. I'm going to switch to factory.
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I hope they change the package policy though. Factory currently starts rolling things in at RC stage -- for example, the kernel is 3.16 rc6 and Libreoffice is 4.3.0.3. Both aren't actual releases.
While I do want to be on a rolling release, I don't want to be running RC candidates. I hope that changes.
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Libreoffice is 4.3.0.3
Not sure about the kernel, but LO is at 4.3 stable as of yesterday. I think it's 4.3.0.4, actually.
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It is 4.3.0.4 (and for Linux, really the same as 4.3.0.3). But as soon as it hit the first RC candidate, it was uploaded into Factory, so in this case, almost a month before it was released, and 99 RC bug fixes (between RC2 and RC3). Not exactly what I want to update to for a stable system.
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You're right the old system was to have RC and beta packages in Factory. Previously Tumbleweed would have only stable packages so if you want a rolling release with stable that may be the one you want.
It sounds like the new Factory will only have stable.
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So will this replace tumbleweed?
That was my first question. I haven't seen any mention of it, so my guess is not, as they target different audiences. Tumbleweed is meant to be used by people, Factory is bleeding-edge, make no promises, new packages for developers and testers.
Quoting Ancor, one of openSUSE's regular contributors
“The new Factory is not here to replace Tumbleweed. Both rolling distributions accomplish different goals. The Tumbleweed initiative (http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed) provides rolling updates of selected packages (~10% of the packages in Factory) on top of the most recent openSUSE released version. Tumbleweed therefore always has openSUSE releases as base. Factory on the other hand is a full rolling distribution where all packages, even core ones are continuously updated and rebuilt.”
It's only 10%? That makes it sound downright stable. Now if they'd only make it play nice with the proprietary nVidia drivers...
Yeah I had trouble with Tumbleweed and proprietary nvidia. Apparently, a lot of people do not have this problem by doing something with the kernel updates, but it goes beyond my willingness to fix things.
This was the old system. With the new way, Factory will essentially become more stable and thus more usable as a daily driver. Greg KH (one of the maintainers of Tumbleweed I think?) stated here that he hopes Tumbleweed dies with the new Factory:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2014-07/msg00098.html
Someone sent me that on the IRC, it makes sense. Depending on how well nVidia works I might jump aboard, or maybe I'll be responsible and pout at my outdated packages on my stable, mission critical system.