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Twice Guilded Basic Income Comment: "It would not be an economic slowdown. It would be a Renaissance."

I know anything Basic Income related is shooting fish in a barrel. But I've never submitted anything before, so whatever.

Hyperlink to the original comment.

Highlights include:

"UBI does not in any way impede work = money. Economics changes nil under UBI."

"I don't want to live in a world where people must subject themselves to suffering ... to survive. A hundred years ago it was necessary - today it is not, and it is effectively torture to have the technological innovation we have while compelling everyone to be at the beck and call of a capitalist."

"UBI makes entpreneurism[sic] - something that has died in the last 30 years while wealth has accumulated at the top and not moved - enable[d] in spades, by giving everyone a minimum standard of living even while their ventures are not turning profit."

"It would not be an economic slowdown. It would be a Renaissance."

Posted Aug 3, 2014, 1:25 PM UTC

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Catullus13•

It would finally allow me to sit around the house all day, playing video games and drinking mountain dew.

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canisdormit•

But you already do that.

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zxcv73Anarchist™•

Only part time though.

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zoidberg1339•

The government better pay for my Doritos, too.

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[deleted]•

That shit ain't cheap.

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zinnenator•

Dude what are you talking about government makes money

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Engineer_daddy91NRA shill.•

It boggles my mind that some people honestly think that you shoukd just get money from the government for doing nothing.

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ExPwner•

but muh basic human value! I should be paid for that too!

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Engineer_daddy91NRA shill.•

The sense of entitlement is just fucking scary....

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ExPwner•

Yep. In their minds, a "civilized society" means that everyone (as a collective) owes each individual a certain standard of living, simply because that person exists and "has value." You know, like outside the actual value they contribute through mutually beneficial exchange.

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eidoK1•

That's because they seem to think that money actually comes from the government and that it isn't being stolen from people who have actually earned it.

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snex00Fucking corporatist bootlicker•

They don't even know what money actually is.

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zoidberg1339•

Yes they do. It's what their parents give them.

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[deleted]•

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we_r_legun1993•

Duh literally 99% of all the wealthy people in this country inherited their money. /s

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I_am_Norwegian•

There also seems to be this implied argument that -especially related to taxes - if we all take a drop in our living standards, in our real purchasing power, either in higher taxes, higher minimum wages, some bullshit regulation, or some bullshit like we're talking about in this thread, that we're all going to be better off, that we're all going to be better off.

It's like they think that if I pay for your health care, and you for mine, it's free for the both of us.

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imautoparts•

It boggles my mind that people like you think wage-slavery is the height of human achievement.

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Engineer_daddy91NRA shill.•

Lol "wage slavery"

Sorry you're expected to actually work to earn a living.

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ExPwner•

First off, no part of mutually beneficial exchange is even remotely comparable to slavery. No person compels you to work. Reality compels you to work.

Second, I doubt anyone here thinks that labor is the height of human achievement. We're just realistic in understanding that consumption has a cost and labor has a subjective value. Most people choose to exchange labor for consumable goods since they understand that their mere existence doesn't provide (to others) more value than the cost of their consumption.

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[deleted]•

your boss whips you and keeps you in bound with metal shackles? You might want to think about updating that resume man...

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[deleted]•

You're right: end wage-slavery. Abolish the income/payroll/capital gains/corporate tax.

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buffalo_pete•

I've heard that's what happens when you give people money for not working; they...work...harder?

Oh, forget it, I can't even make that funny. I'll go have another cup of coffee and come back.

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Bart_Fucket•

Positives: endless free money

Negatives: Nil!

Now what do they say about ideas too good to be true?

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23infinityOPHow Can The State Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?•

Now what do they say about ideas too good to be true?

They must be implemented immediately!

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HypnotaodA Road! My Kingdom For a Road!•

"I don't want to live in a world where people must subject themselves to suffering ... to survive"

Do people really believe this shit?

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decdec•

"while compelling everyone to be at the beck and call of a capitalist."

http://euonymous.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/monopoly.jpg

This is literally how they see the world.

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imjgaltstill•

Unless there is some sort of global collapse UBI will happen. I am preparing to be ready to suck up all of the UBI from the indolent dumb masses.

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uberbob79•

If everyone has a thing that thing is not valuable.

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[deleted]•

There's a differen e between things and currency. UBI would devalue currency.

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