Public Service Announcement - Please use donotlink.com
Posted Aug 14, 2014, 6:41 AM UTC · edited
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Not too bothered by that. He provides a valuable service that does not directly promote any agenda.
Judge by actions, not words, etc. I guess if you really wanted to avoid him, you could just screenshot whatever page you want to share.
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It does promote an agenda. Look at the discussion on the home page of donotlink.com
Just screenshot pages. You can use:
I am sure there are more.
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Don't use donotlink. All it does (in theory) is harming the search engine ranking for the not linked articles.
They still get hits and thus ad revenue.
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DoNotLink does nothing to prevent them from getting hits, all it means is they won't know visits came from Reddit.
DoNotLink is only a useful service for torrent sites that don't want to get outed.
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True. We can create our own service though. Imagine this: you enter a link in the app, it wgets the content, saves the URL in a DB, so it won't be visited again if another user enter it, and then serves the content to users. That's what I have in mind on a first thought, correct me if I am missing something.
It probably won't work on JS heavy pages/one page apps though.
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I imagine copyright law would work badly with that. The most efficient solution would probably be a imgur-hosted screenshot. There are apps for chrome at least that let you do the whole page.
All we need now is to make it enforced? Any word on that mods? Block the websites via auto-moderator and just enforce screenshots unless needed?
It'd tie into our existing policy of not brigading anyone very well. We already use redditlog exclusively. Something similar for out of reddit sites is a good idea too.
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Yes this would be good... somethign that spits something up on imgur or whatever would be good too. The idea is we need to stop driving revenue to these websites.
I have no problem with linking to manosphere blogs or news sources. Should probably blacklist feminist dominated sites with a manual list. I just know huffpo and jezebel spit out crap articles that get linked here all the time and they're getting $$$ for it.
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When you link them directly they get paid based on the number of hits they receive and there are lots of dudes here (619 swallowing the pill right now). If they get even 1 penny per hit multiply that by the number of articles that end up getting linked and we're easily driving hundreds or thousands of dollars into the pockets of radical feminist supported media.
This is actually an understatement. For its size, redpill is easily one of the more well-known forums on reddit. I remember a mod quoting me around ~6 million uniques in the irc around in may. Which may actually be quite a bit higher now.
So, imagine that over a month, we link jezebel/huffpo/whatever articles every day such that they're prominent on the front page a significant percentage of the time, enough for just a measly 3% of the passers-through to click on... overall, by month's end we've driven 180,000 clicks worth of traffic to these kinds of idiots.
Stop it.
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Yeah, RP has become a huge thing. For the first time I've been seeing people in my social circle talk about it IRL and I have never mentioned it.
However, donotlink doesn't do what some people here think it does. It's created by some Canadian SEO agency that wanted publicity and a high-quality link from a popular website, so they created something like bitly. Donotlink just makes the link nofollow and filters out search engine bots, so the sites you are linking to don't get a bonus in the SERPs.
By using Donotlink, you are still opening the website, you are still giving them hits. For now, the best thing you can do, is use Ghostery or Disconnect, so their analytics software will probably be blocked, but if they have a custom tool that also checks the server logs, you are still fucked.
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Guilty. Linked a jizzybelle article about feminists getting wet panties over traditionally masculine males. The comments were priceless, with lots of agreement over general hotness of alpha behavior.
Will use donotlink in the future.
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Use AdBlock as well, no sense in giving them ad impressions.
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A screen-shot post on imgur makes more sense.
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Please take down this useless message or replace it with something more useful.
DoNotLink.com is a no-referer service - it only allows you to visit the site without HTTP_REFERER, this hiding whether you came there via a clicked google search link, reddit link or any other link for that matter. The target site is forced to believe you typed the whole URL yourself.
Other than that, your visit gives them full HTTP headers including your IP address, and thus a potential new hit.
Something more useful: USE ADBLOCK
If you really don't want them to get hits, you would need to
- screenshot the page - 1 hit and pageview
- visit the target site via the same endpoint (anonymous proxy) - 1 hit per unique proxy IP, more views
Anonymous web proxy services are available, say www.hidemyass.com, www.kproxy.com. Using them you visit the target site with the HTTP headers of the proxy service used, this hides your IP and does not give them unique hits. Furthemore, no *VIA or FORWARDED headers are sent to the target site, leaving you anonymous.
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adblock helps but not nearly as much as something like another person suggested and a bunch of screenshots on imgur.
They still use number of hits as a selling feature when negotiating with advertisers. We need to find ways to give them less hits.
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And I argued that in your original post about using donotlink.com.
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Thanks OP. I've been trying to spread the word across here about it from time to time and on MRA
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Not only that, but men getting outraged about clickbait-misandry or clickbait-hamster articles actually just encourage more of the same articles to be published. Jezebel figures hey, our article trashing MRA as a bunch of creepy white dudes, or our post about how hitting men is OK, got X hits and Y shares. Let's pen more of that content and less of the less-idiotic content, because clearly that's what people respond to.
If you hate an article, you are encouraging more of that article-type to be churned out by linking it here. This is one of the main reasons I left MRA. They just couldn't realize how they were basically just making money for feminists at an unchecked rate.
This isn't a bad thing. The more they publish like this, the more people they'll alienate.