Millennials love socialism! Until you explain what it means...
Posted Aug 26, 2014, 9:49 PM UTC
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My young cousin, who just graduated highschool, was telling me and my cousin (hardcore ancaps) about the awesomeness of socialism. Her history teacher decided to give a lesson. I stopped her when she said "everyone gets equal pay so everyone can afford what they need!" I said, "so a doctor who spent a decade learning and training should get paid the same as a garbage man who, while doing something important and necessary, just picks bags up and throws them somewhere?" she said, "well that is true, but what about athletes and actors and singers! They make much more than doctors!" and I responded "well think about all the revenue they bring in. No one tunes into a doctor performing surgery, however everyone tunes into the Yankee game. Sports players, singers, actors cause more monetary movement individually. Also they are pretty rare. Now if you forced everyone to get paid the same it just wouldn't make sense. It would mess with the market in all kinds of ways. An athlete will bring in more money than a burger flipper. Making them get the same wage would cause all kinds of discrepancies." I literally got her to agree with that one convo. Now she isn't an ancap but she definitely saw what I was saying.
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Not to mention singers and actors can end up spending long periods of time on the road and away from home, and athletes generate a lot of wear and tear on their bodies giving most a short career.
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Ugh... you're just supposed to yell at people, telling them that they are wrong. Why for art thou educate, maaaaaan?
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Nice video. Good, objective info in that that isn't really expected.
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Good, objective info in that that isn't really expected.
Reason is the answer. Check out their video regarding zoning and the tiny house movement.
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The tiny house movement is just a way to acclimate people into lowering their living standards. It ties into Agenda 21 and that type of thinking. Eventually what will happen is that the only affordable housing is like 100 sq ft apartments and since a large chunk of people have been accustomed to the idea via this whole "tiny house" propaganda they will graciously take the tiny apartment. this will make it impossible for them to be self reliant, you can only store so much in something like that and it is essentially a prison cell. You go to work slave, make money, pay taxes, go home and sit in your tiny space.
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I hear what you're saying and I'm interested in both the tiny house movement as well as exposing Agenda 21. Are there any documents regarding Agenda 21 referring to the things you stated?
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Well Agenda 21 pushes "sustainable development" in urban planning. If you look up "new urbanism"(which incorporates sustainable development goals) and the like, its all about creating compact cities, with no cars and walking/biking/transit only for the people living there(aka you can't leave, you go where we want you to go, etc). I would recommend going to like r/urbanplanning and just reading the articles on there, they've all been through "schooling" and all have the mindset that the Agenda 21 goals are ideal. I go in there are troll occasionally. They think that walking/biking gives you more options for transport because for some reason you can't do that without the infrastructure like bike lanes(which take out car traffic lanes, creating more congestion, which is the goal: one smart growth goal is to increase congestion to make it more convenient to walk or bike). So all you really need to do is look up examples of sustainable development and see it happening literally all around you as we speak. All of it has been pushed by NGOs claiming to be grassroots movements that give grants to cities for implementing the changes(it happened in my city).
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That depends on which Agenda 21 you're interested in.
The real world (PDF) Agenda 21 is essentially a collection of notes on lessons learned - from first world countries - for emerging countries. Everything from planting trees along the edges of fields to stop top-soil from blowing away, to zoning bylaws stopping someone from putting heavy industrial or a pig farm next to residential. It's what we were already doing, and we recommend - and ONLY recommend - to others.
Then there's the conspiritard version, used by web sites monetizing gullible submorons. It's full of hyper-stupid claims about everything from forcing people into 100 sq ft apartments and bicycles, to population control through genocide. To find out where they get these claims requires a doctor with a flashlight.
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I believe that Capitalism is bad and that Socialism is good. I also know that the free market does a better job with goods and services and that a government run economy would be horrible. Have I mentioned how awesome Socialism is?
This is what I hear when talking to modern, young socialists. Almost exactly word for word.
I love it when they say things like "well real socialism/communism doesn't have a government"
Really, is that why more government is in every fucking solution?
The issue is that the "left" is exceedingly good at perverting language to remove the meaning in words and change them into synonyms for "good" and "bad". This is exactly what has happened in the UK where we have:
This is achieved through state education programmes (most teachers are in unions and so left wing they have difficulty keeping their cars off the footpath) and through the state run media (the BBC).
These words don't mean anything any more. That's why you get parties like the BNP described as "right-wing" while their economic polices are in fact protectionist and socialist.
Controlling the language allows the media to conflate "right-wing libertarians" with "right-wing BNP", because right-wing doesn't mean anything any more other than "EVIL EVIL EVIL FIVE MINUTE HATE TIME".
Most recently, a BBC documentary declared that North Korea was in fact a "right wing state", to literal applause from the left.
The whole thing is a nightmarish combination of Orwell's Newspeak and the endless childhood repetitions out of Brave New World.
IT is like that in the US as well. Nazism is described as right-wing despite being text-book left-wing big government.
Its those heavy L's and R's in the words. LLLeft, LLLLiberal, pubLLLLic, sociaLLLLism versus the RRRRRight, conseRRRRRvative, pRRRRRivate.... oh and capitalism.