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REMINDER: Silent Hill is not a ghost story

First of all, I think Silent Hills is going to be great and a quality production (and a world apart from the crap we've endured since Homecoming) but: it's NOT Silent Hill. Just like anything outside 1-3 is not Silent Hill.

I don't think Kojima or Del Toro have it in them. Del Toro is obsessed with remaking things like The Orphanage and Mama over and over. Crappy ghost stories. He's overrated, and again, what he does is not SH.

And Kojima is basically a one-hit wonder (MGS 1) and ever since everything he has done has been characterized by having one or two interesting ideas, but ultimately the whole thing is half-baked, pretentious and vacuous. Also, he surrounds himself with yes-men who let him do incredibly stupid, downright senile stuff (e.g. MGS4's Johnny).

I can already feel that Kojima is going to use "alternate realities" as his SH version of "nanomachines". The plot is a mess? alternate reality! things don't make sense? alternate reality! and so on.

Furthermore, I've already seen Kojima's vacuous, pretentious and just atrocious show up in P.T.: "The only me is me. Are you sure the only you is you?" gee, you could have just had any random angsty teen write that.

But what could we expect from mr. "If you will not be a prisoner to fate, go, fulfill your destiny" and "it was never going to work out for me. It even rained on my birthday -> no, you were the lightning in that rain".

In short, don't overhype Silent Hills. Kojima is not that good and Del Toro is way out of his depth here.

Posted Aug 29, 2014, 1:38 AM UTC · edited

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AlexKazaSMCheryl•

Silent Hill 2 and 3 have haunted mansions and ghosts in them, as well as Silent Hill 4.

See: Ernest Baldwin, Amy Baldwin, Hazel Street Station Subway Ghost, Borley Haunted Mansion, and Walter's 21 Sacraments.

Silent Hill has a few ghost subplots in them. There's even more in the western games, but please don't act like SH2-SH4 didn't have ghost elements.

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junkmonkey4876Harry•

Just like anything outside 1-3 is not Silent Hill.

Seriously?

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PixelShrimpDog•

I can understand your concern, however I disagree.

Silent Hill is about perception based off of the main character. If the character is seeing ghosts because of his guilt- it's going to be ghosts. Which has somewhat been a thing since The Room. Besides, it wasn't even "boo I'm a ghost be super afraid" type of demo. It was well thought out and beautifully executed. Everything to a microscopic detail has a purpose and that's something you don't really see. I wouldn't judge the game just based off the directors alone- Silent Hill is getting the love it deserves after many years and I couldn't be happier. I'm not even hyped over the names. I'm more hyped that that the demo was actually well done so it leaves a lot of room to be an amazing edition to the family unlike the past few games.

Though I will admit Junji Ito possibly working on it does get me all fangirly. The man is, in my eyes, the best horror author alive right now. So I do hope that rumor is true.

Also- Zone of the Enders is one of the best RPG titles out there. It was amazing. So don't count Kojima out based off of MGS ( I don't even like MGS). He has made other things that were actually well done.

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HairlessSasquatch•

I'm just going to enjoy the game regardless and not try to over analyze facts about the people who made it. Give them a chance.

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Acheros•

Del Toro is obsessed with remaking things like The Orphanage and Mama over and over. Crappy ghost stories. He's overrated, and again, what he does is not SH.

Sir, them's be fightin' words...

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