I feel like I'm not getting anywhere.

Question

Here's where I'm at:

  • 4th ascension, sitting at lvl 64
  • 10 hero souls
  • Lvl 2 Libertas
  • Lvl 3 Siyalatas
  • 2 gilds on Alexa, 1 gild on Brittany, Midas

I've been skipping Cid at first, leveling each hero to 10 and buying their first upgrade. When things slow down or after I've farmed overnight, I go back and buy all the upgrades for earlier heroes. Based on what the rivsoft calculator tells me, I've been beating Omeet and ascending for 2 hero souls each time. But I don't feel like I'm making any real progress, I have to sit with the game a lot and use my skills to get through bosses. Am I missing something?

Posted Oct 19, 2014, 3:32 PM UTC

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dangdung87•

Rather push for lvl 140 untill you can pass that wall with ease. Around 140 you'll be able to level your heros to a total lvl of 14000 (7 Souls). Dont trust the calculator too much on the suggested level, go as far as you can without farming for too long.

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unwinagainstable•

I'm pretty sure you should be holding more hero souls. I wouldn't use many after your next ascension or two. After you've built up a good amount of hero souls I would go after Vaagur. He reduces cool down times drastically which helps a lot in quickly moving through the lower levels.

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UrzaMTG•

Before you ascend, buy as many hero levels as possible. Every 2000 levels give you another HS when you ascend. Leave the ancients alone for awhile, and just accrue souls like this. This will make your further runs go faster. I usually aim for 14,000 levels before I ascend, which is +7 souls (not including the +1 base for ascending, +1 for Omeet, and any extra primal bosses you get). The only thing I haven't figured out myself is when to stop building up souls and when to start buying ancients.

Also, you should re-gild Midas. He is one of the lowest damage heroes because his upgrades don't increase DPS.

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MRRaul55•

He should not re-gild Midas until later.

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d20diceman•

This is good advice. Even if you could move the guild to a hero of your choice your gains wouldn't come close to offsetting the DPS loss from spending the Hero Souls - not until you have a lot more souls, that is.

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patronicsOP•

The only thing I haven't figured out myself is when to stop building up souls and when to start buying ancients.

I think that's exactly what this calculator is for: http://www.rivsoft.net/clicker/ancientssoul

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d20diceman•

You should probably aim for more than 2 hero souls per ascension - I got more than that my first ascension I think, before having ancients or souls. I think you might also be better off saving up a few more hero souls - losing the half your Hero Soul DPS bonus isn't worth it for a level or two of an ancient. Similarly, although you should eventually reguild Midus, losing the 20% dps isn't worth it until that's only a drop in the ocean of your HS DPS.

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patronicsOP•

I had more than 2 for my first couple ascensions, I just changed to the quick ascensions based on what the calculator said.

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charliebrown1321•

I'm still stuck in early game and I'd never ascend under 8 (14,000 levels + omeet) and most the time I get 10-13 (if I snag another primal or two before 140-150ish)

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bersi84•

Most have been already said. Try to play active and use the combos to push. Buy the upgrades, try to gather dps-awards that are easy to achieve. Try to ascend reasonablem if you can gain a few souls then do it. Save at least 20 to 50 souls and then start spending again. With that your dps will grow rapidly and you will be able to gain more souls. Your Ancients are fine. Try to stack up souls and then increase Lib+Siya before going on to buy new ones.

If I were you, I wouldnt bother to re-guild it doesnt impact too much as of now for you and you only have 10 souls. So just go with it as it is.

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