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Kokkothespacemonkey•

uo can say vinyl is making a comeback. laptops are being pushed out of the dj booth.

talk to anyone involved in the sale of records and they ll tell you they are doing very good right now.

try going to betinos or syncrophone in paris on a saturday afternoon its crowded as fuck and you ll see it s not some hipster revival with people buying LPs just so they can frame them.

most clients are actual diggers who just dont like to dig online. you guys are very condescending by calling them hipsters. most of the people i met at the record store are really serious about their music. and due to the cost of pressing + the filtering effect of the record clerks there s way less garbage in the shelves of any of those store than on beatport or bandcamp.

i m just talking about the dj niche though i dont know about what happens for the sale of pop music.

but vinyl is definitely doing very good in underground music.

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Sapian•

I didn't click the link but this title is terrible.

Who thinks vinyl is dead? And it makes a comeback? It never left, it's just become more niche as expected. It will never entirely die out, but it also never make any comeback.

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lemonjalo•

Depends on how you look at it. Relative to itself, there has been huge growth. Relative to everything else, its still a niche market.

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Sapian•

Sure I guess relative to itself it's made a comeback not really what I would call huge growth but yes I was thinking relative to everything else, little has changed for vinyl.

But the title is definitely written as click bait.

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lemonjalo•

Yeah you can say that, but honestly I can see how this is considered a vinyl comeback. Vinyl is in Barnes and Noble. I see vinyl selling at Whole Foods. The title is meant to attention grab for sure, but it just seems like regular media.

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Sapian•

I wouldn't call it a comeback, consumers are not buy record players, Techs are out of production. It's just getting a retro hipster bump in sales.

I've been buying vinyl and dj'ing for over 15 years now, so I'm not trying to hate on vinyl, I love vinyl, but I know subtle trends when I see one.

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knoeki•

It's like one of these articles has popped up every few months for the past 10 years

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a_posh_trophy•

Because you can't get 77 out of a possible 74, genius.

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FoX_KiLLa•

Thanks, hipsters.

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a_posh_trophy•

Really? The most satisfying and highest quality audio format is only for hipsters? Learn your history. Vinyl never died, it has just become less accessible and accepted as digital is cheaper and easier to obtain. If you've ever collected any vinyl, you would learn to appreciate its authority in the audio world.

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geodebug•

Most satisfying is subjective and many would agree with you.

Highest quality audio format isn't really correct.

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a_posh_trophy•

Well it's uncompressed WAV, which is the highest bitrate you can get.

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lemonjalo•

Look I love vinyl, but no, if you research into the topic a little bit, CDs actually have better audio reproduction. A lot of people still prefer vinyl sound, but CDs and digital Wav format, which definitely still is CD, has better audio reproduction.

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ganjamensch•

Well it's uncompressed WAV, which is the highest bitrate you can get.

So is a CD, and you don't get pops and crackles on a CD.

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geodebug•

One easy answer would be that the old analog tape master recordings obviously has higher quality than the vinyl.

But I could see arguing that you meant commercial audio formats, not pro.

Vinyl also loses quality with each use, which makes sense as even a high-quality cartridge still has to physically touch the groove. Over time your favorite records will degrade in quality, something that doesn't happen with digital (but can happen with scratched CDs of course).

This is all pedantic though. Well cared for records should last quite a long time and can be passed down.

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FourAM•

And, depending on the medium used when recording it, literally zero aliasing, which uncompressed WAV will have even at high frequencies (although they'll be extremely hard to notice).

Actually, it was the rounding of hard-edged waved (like square waves) that made vinyl remain popular with electronic music for so long. Vinyl is a physical, analog medium and that fits much nicer with amplifiers and speakers, which by the laws of physics are also analog devices. The groove in the vinyl will always have an ever-so-slight curve at those hard edges, which emulates the need for a physical object to be moved within reality.

Digital output can hard-switch a signal edge much faster. It sounds a bit colder.

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