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VideoLexi

An argument for the Empire still being around 30 years later.

Posted Nov 30, 2014, 8:42 AM UTC

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darklordoftech•

agreed, plus if the Sith survived 1000 years, the Empire shouldn't have any trouble surviving 30

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sierrabravo1984•

They actually did, but it was less uniform of an organizational structure. The Bacta War happened after the battle of Yavin, Han and Leia are married and helping run the newly established Republic, they have to fight the Imperial Remnant to consolidate their victories, fight Grand Admiral Thrawn, the Yuuzhan Vong begin their advances into the galaxy from the out reaches.

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Cheerwines•

not anymore!

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Tootsiesclaw•

IIRC the Expanded Universe stuff wasn't explicitly called non-canon, all that was said was that the films are a clean plate. So I'm taking this to mean that the books are still canon, unless contradicted by the films.

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mastersword130•

They already stated that everything EU is non canon and is in the legends category now. They may pick and choice things from the legends category but if they do don't expect things to be the same. Darth Maul is vastly different from canon to the legends category.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_canon#Disney_acquisition.2C_canon_revision_and_Star_Wars_Legends

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shidarin•

This again? What was announced was that the movies wouldn't be adhering to EU, and that this exact EU timeline was no longer going to be expanded.

Instead, they even went so far as to announce there was a committee to pick and choose which EU elements would be "promoted" to a higher level of canon.

EU was never considered strict canon. The situation we have now is that some bits of the EU might be higher canon than ever before.

Here's the thing about IP, IP takes time and money to develop, but once developed it can work for the owner.

Are the movies going to follow EU canon? No! Are they going to trample on lots of EU canon? YES.

Will they cement other things from the EU as canon? Mark my words, yes.

Disney is in charge now- the same company that has been pillaging decades of Marvel's universe for the best of the best to convert into movies.

They know how to work already developed IP, to pick what's popular and toss what's not popular.

Edit: bring the downvotes.

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mastersword130•

So all in all you just explained that EU is no longer canon. This isn't like marvel where there are different universes, they purged all of EU and put it in the legends category. Will they use some stuff from legends? Probably but it won't be like the EU versions. Right now legends is like a glorified fan fiction.

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Montauket•

I'm not a huge Marvel fan, but is that true that they sifted through marvel's canon to find what would be best to turn into films?

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TheRevMrGreen•

Your EU powers will not work on me, boy.

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Roderick111•

It basically boils down to the Grand Moffs, who, as Tarkin mentioned in EP IV, have direct control of their sectors. Sectors can comprise hundreds of worlds, and each sector would be like a mini-Galactic Empire of its own.

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Polarbearsss•

Very similar to what happened to Alexander's empire, which was carved up by his generals. The only difference is that his generals fought against each other for supremacy, while I don't know if the Grand Moffs did the same.

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Roderick111•

In the EU they did, but since that's been discarded, who knows?

Off the top of my head you had Warlord Zsinj, Admiral Daala and (after Thrawn's death) Admiral Pellaeon. Eventually (20-30 years after RotJ) the Council of Moffs was formed to resolve disputes and negotiate the peace treaty with the New Republic.

What I find interesting is that the notion of the Empire is not in and of itself evil, I mean, after all, the Old Republic was a den of corruption and decadence. Once the dust settled after Palpatine's death, and the ensuing power struggles and civil wars, the Imperial Remnant that emerged under Pellaeon was just another government in the galaxy.

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Ey3rose•

Always my biggest issue with ROJ (as an adult) how is the war over!? Did all those star destroyers just leave? Swallowed by the explosion? The only logical conclusion I can come up with is they retreated, and just missed the rebel endor party for a counter attack.

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Khanstant•

Why would they go away, it was never like they were dfeeated, just lost some bigass ships and battles.

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comet997•

The Emperor was using Battle Meditation.

I know! I know! EU doesn't apply! But even without all that, it just makes sense.

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Remote_Start•

Hasn't the new story been written to where the Rebellion has failed and the Empire is as strong as ever?

Even so, in the EU eventually the Empire re-surges and the Republic is completely and totally wiped out.

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mastersword130•

Probably they will follow some of the story from legends but since it isn't canon I wouldn't expect them to lose the rebellion completely

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[deleted]•

This video takes place like five minutes after Return of the Jedi, not 30 years. The absurd need to justify every decision that is being made by the filmakers, is just pathetic.

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VideoLexiOP•

Its just a joke.

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