Andrew Miller to Yankees. 4yr $36 mil
Posted Dec 5, 2014, 8:41 PM UTC
Posted Dec 5, 2014, 8:41 PM UTC
The hits just keep on coming.
Let's wait until spring training to declare this offseason a bad one. Remember, last year nothing really happened until February as pitchers and catchers were nearing their report date.
Fuck.
Fucking fuck.
Motherfucker.
Mother fucker fuck the shit.
Fack
Would you have matched that contract?
No, of course not. But I would hope his other suitors could have.
Apparently someone actually beat it but he turned them down.
Wtf... he played for the red sox and orioles and then took less money to go to the yankees.... I wonder if he was secretly super pissed at boston for trading him and just wanted to go anywhere that he could really stick it to them.
At least none of our players are going to jail today..... That's something...... Right?
I hope the joyride was Werth it.
Day isn't over yet
Relief pitchers are very fickle. It's hard to predict if Miller is actually going to perform at a high level for the next 4 years. He looked incredible in his time with us, but I'd rather see us use that kind of money on players who are more likely to be consistent, than on any reliever.
Plus Yankee starters aren't that good anyway.
That's why they needed him. It sucks that he went to New York but I think we can still take them.
I'm shocked it wasn't Detroit who signed him, and FUCK the Yankees man. Why did it have to be them? ;_;
Miller and Betances is gonna be fun in the 8th/9th.
It's apparently still feasible the Yanks retain Robertson as well.
I love Robertson but he's too much trouble, he always has to make it interesting and if there were two outs with Adam Jones at bat and a runner on second I'd rather have Miller in than Robertson. They still have a deep pen without robertson, deeper than last year in fact.
Ok. Thanks for the insight
Yea, I just don't see us re-signing Robertson. He had a monster year in 2011, and has still put up good numbers since. But last year you just couldn't feel safe with him in there even with a 3 run lead. He wants a fuck ton of money and since we're probably going to bid on Scherzer I doubt we'll give him what he wants.
I was trying to convince myself they wont :(
Well if they were being honest about staying around the luxury tax level, it'd be tough to swing.
Well if we take a step back and look through a larger scope, we snagged Miller for some minor leaguers, Miller dominated his entire tenure as an Oriole, and now he's back in the same division he came from, just on the Yankees instead of the Sox. And they signed him to 4 years, which could backfire.
Idk, I'm starting to just trust everything DD does now, he's been great except for the Jimenez signing really.
I agree. I can't fault him for Jiminez either, I thought it was a great signing. I still believe that he'll turn it around too.
He's only had 2 seasons below 3 war (including last year). He has to be worth just over 7 WAR over the next three seasons for us to break even in the long run which is pretty doable. When you factor in losing the draft pick he probably needs to be worth 8 or 9 war so it's definitely reasonable that he ends up worth something close to the value of the deal or just less. Either way, I still don't expect to go down as one of the worst contracts in team history so there's that.
Get to look forward to having him mow us down 14 times next season.
Nah. They will probably only use him if they have a lead... So NEVERRRR
Not surprised. Irritated, but not surprised.
Fuuuuuuuck.
MotherFUCKER
As a Sox fan, I can feel your pain, birdies.
Yup... We only had him for a few months and people are upset.... How are you guys doing?
Mixed reviews on the deal in r/redsox. Some miss him (and the beard) and some aren't surprised.
Andrew Miller has agreed to a 4-year, $36 million deal with the Yankees, according to source involved in negotiations.
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I would sign him for that AAV, but 4 years is too much for a reliever.
I hope DD at least had a 3 year offer on the table.
Understanding is we did not pursue.
I'd assume the reasoning was that he was expected to get a deal in this neighborhood and Duquette knew that we'd be priced out. Why waste his time and our time when you know it's not going to happen?
My god. The Orioles better have something up their sleeve. We're losing stars left and right. Not to mention Davis and Wieters will probably be gone next offseason.
It was accepted long ago that we weren't going to retain Miller.
Under the premise that we retain at least some of our stars yeah. No Cruz, Markakis, and now Miller? We couldn't have signed one of these guys??
Cruz is unlikely to repeat this year. Markakis is about to have a not insignificant surgery on his neck - the same surgery mind you, that began Nolan Reimold's troubles. So I'm honestly not real hung up about it.
And, adding on, giving 4 year deals to a reliever is risky as fuck.
No matter what position we're in, Duke is certifiable if he doesn't deal them at deadline.
How does it make sense to deal them if we have a chance to make the playoffs. I understand completely if we are out of it, but I doubt we would get anything in return that would help in a playoff run.
We've been stocking up on catchers for a reason....
Exactly. But I don't think any of them are ready to start this year. Maybe if one of them is tearing it up and Wieters is slumping we trade him, but his value is diminished. But obviously, if we are not in a race, he's gone.
We might have some catchers but none of them are starters. Joseph got exposed with more playing time, Clevenger just doesn't excite and Sisco is years away, I am talking 3-4. On top of that, he might not even stick there considering how awful he was last year. The one scout I trust that has seen him, Keith Law, says there is zero chance he sticks back there.
Anyway, at least with the QO we get a sandwich pick when Matt/Crush leave after next year. And if we are out of it at the deadline, then we trade them.
The Cespedes deal felt like it set a precedent for that type of deal though. It obviously didn't work out for Oakland but it's plausible that something like that is tried again and does work out the way it's intended. One of the really great thingsabout the team right now is that Duquette and Buck seem to be always on the same page. That means that if we were to trade Wieters at the deadline, Buck believes we can handle losing him and if buck believes then I believe it would be worth the potential return we may get for wieters.
Depending how this season goes, I think we'll be able to keep one of those two, or at least be able to flip them for a very nice return.
That...price isn't that bad.
Now I'm torn over the whole thing.
Not bad for a starter/closer. Too much for a set up guy in my opinion.
Feldman got 10.
This is the game we live in now with the modern TV deals.
I suppose you're right.
Feldman is a starter though. He pitched 180 innings. Miller pitched 62. Houston was smart to get him for 10 per.
The Yankees are paying way more than what a 62 inning guy is worth but they can afford to. Smart GM's don't pay setup guys starter money.
9 million rarely gets you a decent, proven starter from free-agency though. Salaries are going up again.
The AL East slut right now bruh... I like him but slut is accurate lmao
Well just think about how Boston feels about this.
ಠ_ಠ I never expected to keep him but I was hoping he'd be out of the AL East.
Yeah, he would have looked good as a Dodger.