r/archeage•
ckeeper

Can we please get refunds for the siege scrolls that were ruined by server issues?

Discussion

Tried to go through live support, but here's the transcript. I'm afraid the GM wasn't aware that the siege scroll is burned when you declare a siege (see bold item), or otherwise wasn't aware of how the scrolls worked. I have heard of other guilds getting refunds, but I don't want to waste time "GM-shopping" until I find one who will issue a refund.

Obviously, changed my real name to my in-game name and edited GM name to prevent witch-hunting.

GM A------ (Listening)

GM A------: Thanks for contacting Trion Worlds Customer Support. My name is GM A------. I'm happy to look into your issue for you today.

GM A------: I can certainly understand how that can be frustrating. I will be more than happy to assist you with that! In order to do so, I’m going to need to collect some information from you.

Is the e-mail on this chat linked to the account in question, or is there another e-mail related to this issue? If there is another e-mail related, may I please have that information?

Ckeep: hi, its this email

GM A------: Great, thanks! Just a moment while I retrieve your account information.

Ckeep: the character I bought the scroll on and declared the siege on was called [redacted].

Ckeep: I traded 1k gold to [redacted] in mirage island, if that helps verify

GM A------: I am going to see if we would be able to refund the item for you since you bought it from another player.

Ckeep: thanks!

Ckeep: if the full refund isn't an option, then maybe whatever they bought it for on the AH might work as a refund option?

GM A------: Your welcome. I am going to check.

GM A------: Sorry this is taking so long.

Ckeep: no worries, by the nature of the question, you can't have heard it too often =P

GM A------: I have not.

GM A------: Sorry again for the amount of time it is taking.

GM A------: Unfortunately we would not be able to refund the item since you purchased the item from another player.

Ckeep: is it possible to refund the auction house purchase price to the player who held it at the time of the siege?

GM A------: Did you purchase the item from the auction house?

Ckeep: no. its my understanding that the player purchased the item from the auction house, and then i was the first owner after that

GM A------: I would only be able to refund the item for the player that bought the item from the store.

Ckeep: i'm really sorry if this seems rude, but i just want to make sure that the blanket policy is that we're not getting refunds for siege scrolls when the sieges couldnt happen

Ckeep: if the answer's yes, no worries at all

Ckeep: i've just heard people saying we could get refunds and i need to go punch them in the face if theyve been lying to me

GM A------: Yes, you can get a refund for the siege scroll, but you have to be the player that purchased the siege scroll from the store. We are not able to refund the siege scroll if it is purchased from another player.

Ckeep: so if the player who bought the siege scroll submits a ticket for a refund, even if they weren't the one to possess it at the time of the siege, they can get a refund?

GM A------: You have to be the one that purchased the siege scroll and you have to be in possession of the siege scroll when requesting to have a refund.

Ckeep: alright, thanks for clearing it up

Ckeep: have a good one!

Posted Dec 8, 2014, 6:40 PM UTC

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TheGreatWalk•

I don't see the issue here?

The GM was very clear that they can only refund the player who purchased it from the AH, and you attempted to get the refund when you are not that person. What was the point of posting this chat log?

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heehaw316•

because support mis spoke and was dumb saying you could only get a refund if you had the scroll on you to refund it which impossibly means during the downtime while the scroll was still alive...

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TheGreatWalk•

What the fuck are you even trying to say?

Slow down, use grammar and punctuation.

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TheSameDamnGuyStand up and Fight•

The point is that their standards for receiving a refund is unreasonable. Siege scrolls are burned when you use them to declare a siege, therefor for them to offer refunds when the siege can't happen (for server reasons) and also require you to have the scroll is impossible.

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ckeeperOP•

Exactly. I don't blame anyone for not remembering, but 30 minutes before sieges, servers seemed generally playable. It was 10~ minutes until sieges when Ollo started to degenerate, at which point you can't pick back up your egg. The standards are unreasonable because the scroll is dropped on declaration, and the problems became apparent after it was too late to pull the egg back up.

In addition, I can definitely see why they wouldn't refund the price I paid to another player, but they additionally wouldn't refund to me to price that the player purchased the scroll from the AH for, which I think is a very reasonable request.

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COMICSAANS•

I still don't see the issue. One could still contact live support during the downtime in question, they should have done so immediately to request a refund rather than waiting over a week and letting things rot.

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axi0maticalNA - Enla•

"What the fudge are you even trying to say?"

Fixed :)

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TheGreatWalk•

I'm a grown man and will use curse words as I please, thank you very much!

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Testous•

It seems he totally didn't get what you are asking for, hes talking about store in which case it would make sense that you have to have the thing u purchased to get refund (as you bought Expansion scroll instead of character slot scroll by mistake, for example)

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OPKunShadowblade•

So moral of the story is do not purchase siege scrolls from other players.

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TheSameDamnGuyStand up and Fight•

No, look at what the GM said. He said you must have the scroll to request a refund. Siege scrolls are consumed on use, therefore by the time you would know the siege won't happen due to down time, your scroll is gone.

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OPKunShadowblade•

So. Moral of the story is do not purchase siege scrolls, and if you do, don't use them. Just keep them for the hell of it.

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TheSameDamnGuyStand up and Fight•

They do make great tissues for the endless tears.

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vannattenYou Mad Bro?•

Honestly, I would wager the GM thought this item is purchasable from the marketplace. They don't even know the game they represent. I asked for a refund on an item I purchased and did not recieve (This case was expansion scrolls) and the GM went along to say "I'm sorry but you have already consumed the Wagon Upgrade so we can not refund." How on earth did he get that out of expansion scrolls was beyond me. They just don't know the game, and follow a script as if they are a telemarketer or a Comcast support rep.

I would ask for the issue to be elevated to tier 2 support as they know much more about the game and what has happened. Tier 2 will follow up with an email..

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