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r/Ingress•
ryanbuck

Ideas for a short term spy...

I started playing Ingress this July but due to a variety of factors I slowly stopped and forgot about it. Two weeks ago a buddy of mine in real life told me about it, and I said, "Yeah, I was playing that, cool, let's play together."

And of course I chose blue, he's on green. At this point he was level 6 and I only got to 2 so I requested a faction change and started the 6 week timer. I played my ass off for the last two weeks and actually converted my entire town to blue and because of me blue is kicking major butt this cycle. I was number 1 for days and have now finally slipped to 4 because there is nothing to do within 5 miles of my house.

Fast forward to now, everyone in both factions knows I'm changing, I've met a handful of people on both sides (all super nice) but the admin of the google group has deemed me a security threat and booted me so I'm feeling 100% dejected and a little bit pissed.

My plan was to work hard for blue until the very last second, then team up with my buddy and turn the town back to green, but since my current team cannot accept this I have decided there is no reason to help them.

I'm not 100% sure I'm committed to doing anything actively to hurt them, I'm damn sure not going to be recharging anything and any neutrals I may find are going to get a heaping helping of L1 resonators, but just for fun are there any clever ways I can undermine blue in my area? I'm looking for fun/funny ideas, something that will get attention more than just give green more points. I've still got 4 weeks to go until I'm on green, and I've been having a blast attacking portals and hacking all around my town. The thought of shutting Ingress down for 4 weeks is pretty horrible, I want some activities to keep me busy, but don't help blue whatsoever.

And if this is like way out of line to even talk about it, just say so and I'll cancel all such plans immediately. Thanks in advance.

Posted Dec 13, 2014, 1:10 AM UTC

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Boner4SCP106Enlightened•

Looks like you have a choice to make. Either you can play like a dick before your change to insure blue hates you, or you can take the more honorable route and not try to fuck shit up. You still have to play with the blue in the area even as an enemy, but your conduct before the change will make a big difference in how much they target you specifically when you turn green.

To not be a dick, just play the game like you would if you didn't know anyone. Capture, link, and field. If you want to refrain from destroying green portals, that seems reasonable to me.

To be a dick, shoot links in a way that it makes it very difficult to do anything productive in your area and make sure you keep those links alive by recharging portals.

Jarvis portals. You're going to lose your inventory anyway, so use it.

Take out guardians. Jarvising them gets bonus dick points here.

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ryanbuckOP•

Well no I don't have a choice to make. I am just looking for ways to let blue know I'm still in the area, that I'm still active, but that it's 100% obvious that they no longer benefit from my pursuits. I don't want to hurt them, I just want them to see my name show up in alerts a lot but for things that don't help them.

My problem is I have no idea what actions I can take to make that a reality, and likely there are none available.

I'm damn sure not going to redo the links in any terrible way, and as I said to someone else, the town is locked down. I busted my butt these last 7 days and created some awesome fields. Now, I know I'm not going to recharge them for the next 7 days, I doubt the other blues in the area will neglect them. I guess we'll see how things look next week, and then maybe formulate a plan.

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Boner4SCP106Enlightened•

Whatever you do as blue is going to benefit blue unless you do dick moves. I don't really understand what you want to do. Anything "clever" to undermine them right now that shows up in the comm is going to hurt them, and doing those things requires that you be a dick.

Again, the question is, do you want to go out as a dick or just become a traitor gracefully?

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ryanbuckOP•

I don't want to be a dick, so it sounds like there is nothing I can do. I think I will just slow down my pace then. I'll keep hacking, maybe I'll actually get with my friend and help him swap portals back and forth to level him up faster. He has been talking about that for a while, but I never felt comfortable with that.

If the answer is nothing, then the answer is nothing, I'll just back off on the game until I'm on green.

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Boner4SCP106Enlightened•

Definitely don't do the swapping thing. That's actually against the rules. They call it "win trading". It seems they only allow that at events or anomalies :P

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TonyExplosion•

If you were only level 2 you should have just made a new google account to play on and picked green. The option is still there. New name, old account stays around. Everyone thinks you just stopped playing until they find out what your old account was.

I don't think you should be upset about getting booted. You are a security threat. You are on their private comms and it is public knowledge that you are waiting for a faction change so you are essentially on the other team already. They aren't interested in your help.

But honestly play the game how you want to and don't let stupid shit and butthurt agents get you down.

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EmDeeEm•

Exactly. OP should have recused himself from a G+ group once he put in the faction change. Being butthurt because they don't want you having the ability of feeding intel to the other side (even if you had no intention to) is just ridiculous.

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Rahnis•

You know, it's not exactly OP's fault that faction change takes 6 weeks, and people usually change factions when they're invested in a game already and putting it aside for 6 weeks (especially during events and so on) is hard.

It's especially quite funny when you realize that from the game's standpoint it means no more, no less than cleaning a few fields in the database, setting other ones to default, deleting all the entries concerning a given player (resonators/mods/portals) and preserving the agent's stats. Literally something that could be done by a script in a few minutes. Anyway, I doubt they're making it manually.

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ryanbuckOP•

You know what, it's just a game, and I was absolutely NOT going to feed any information to my real life friend, and I don't know a single person on green so feeding info to others isn't even possible. That's just a fucking retarded perspective to take on a game. I want to play, not be benched for a month. If I was going to fucking spy for real for these 6 weeks I would have lied when they found out I was changing. No one knows me, that would have been super easy to do. I wouldn't have come clean, but I did because my intentions were good.

I am butt hurt, and I don't want to help them for being so small minded, which of course is awfully small minded of me as well. I have a feeling that in 48 hours, the joy of playing the game to the extreme like I have been will kick in and I will say screw it, blue gets the points regardless of whether they are paranoid nutjobs or not.

That is of course unless I find something better to do to occupy my time for the next 4 weeks.

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ryanbuckOP•

Any info on deleting my account? Like how long does it take? Is it easy to set up again on my same phone? Should I uninstall first?

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Rahnis•

Sure, I'll deliver.

Should take approximately a few days, they'll send you an e-mail to which you'll have to reply with DELETE if you really want to delete your account. Note - this will only affect your Ingress account, your Google account and services will remain intact.

Keep in mind that you can't reuse the same e-mail address for Ingress, you'll have to use another Gmail account if you want to keep playing.

You don't need to uninstall anything.

In order to play again do the following steps: (I'm assuming Android 4.4 at least, although it's probably similar in 2.3+ - I just don't have another device to check):

Go to your Settings -> Accounts -> Add Account -> Google. From that point you configure it exactly like during the first configuration of the device, you can either choose to use an existing account or create a new one if you choose so.

After adding another account launch Ingress, the game will probably ask you which account would you like to sign in with. If it doesn't do so, you can easily do that in Ops -> Device menu.

Hope I helped. :)

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ryanbuckOP•

Hmm, I don't want to mess with my google accounts. I'll just wait it out and let them swap my faction. Thanks anyway.

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ryanbuckOP•

Ok, I looked into this, it's not so bad, but do I have to wait the 5 days to start playing on my new account? Or can I start right now? I created the new gmail account, but I don't want to get banned for having two accounts.

The request to delete is complete on my end, so there should be no question about my intentions.

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ryanbuckOP•

Screw it. I just submitted the form. It only takes 5 days. Going to lose a few hard to get portals, but at least I'll be back up and playing again before Christmas.

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Rahnis•

Less than 5 days. My friend did that several days ago, he submitted the form on Sunday, 11 PM I think, on Thursday his account was gone. In the following 3 days we boosted him back to his L6.

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ryanbuckOP•

Well I totally agree, it's their game, if they don't feel comfortable with me that's totally fine, but I'm not going to help them.

How would I get a new account? There is no way to change my account that I can see. I assumed it was tied to the google account of my entire phone. Maybe I need to google it. Honestly, I'm 2 weeks into my transfer period, I've got 4 to go, I would be delighted if I could start playing for real right now. This would be tons better than dicking around for 4 weeks accomplishing nothing.

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ryanbuckOP•

It doesn't appear it's all that easy to get a fresh account either. Super frustrating for it to be so painful to change anything.

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TonyExplosion•

You just add a new google account to the phone and when you open ingress it will ask you which account you want to use.

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[deleted]•

I'm willing to bet you're 15 or younger.

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ryanbuckOP•

How much? I would love to take your money.

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[deleted]•

It was actually just a way to say you're acting like a damn kid.

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ryanbuckOP•

Ahh, well that may be, but I'm human, and blue shut me out for no reason. They have no reason to think I'm going to hurt them, but since they are treating me this way I don't want to help them anymore.

I feel the way I feel, if I was some sort of super human that acted rationally every second of every day I'd probably be President of the World.

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[deleted]•

The thing is that they are human also. They want to protect their team, now and in the future. You are no longer part of the future (or the now really since you're level 2).
You are just some random player who is swapping sides. Do you honestly blame them?

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GeekRunner1•

Also, on portals typically used for farming, install shitty mods (link amps) and pineapple. In areas that are usually easy to layer, cover with a field so no linking can happen.

Just ride it out. Play how you want. Someone is going to throw a shit fit but that's their problem.

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ryanbuckOP•

Well, I can't do anything like that because blue owns the town. Green seems to have no presence here, which is another reason changing makes sense, but it appears their ability to take the town back is nil. So all I can do is wait for things to expire on their own, then retake them. That sounds about like watching paint dry.

There may be no move here at all, I might just have to put it away for a month and just wait it out.

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