Lacy > Murray
Fun facts:
Eddie Darwin Lacy over the last 6 games, 773 yards from scrimmage & 7 TDs on 119 touches. DeMarco Murray, 612 yards, 6 TDs, 149 touches.
Lacy will have more rushing yards on Sunday.
Posted Jan 6, 2015, 4:03 PM UTC
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That last several games down The Stretch is what shows toughness and true grit, especially in running backs. O line has stepped up immensely and Lacy us taking every opportunity he gets. I expect Lacy and Starks to produce some good numbers Sunday. Lacy gets 100+ yards, I can only expect a win. Don't forget Lacy can catch too!
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I would like to see less Starks now that we're in the dance.
Lacy's receiving is the big difference this year from last.
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How can we see less Starks without seeing him at all? Besides, it's nice to put him in there on occasion because he's a good change-of-pace back that gives Lacy a chance to rest. AND he can rip out a 20-yard bumbling run like nobody's business.
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Before lacy came around, starks was all we had. I'm glad he's still around as backup for those sporadic 20yd bursts
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Yeah, he's demonstrated in the past that he isn't a starting back. But, he's great for what he does right now. In fact, a little more playing time might not actually be too bad for him, either.
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I'd like to see him when Lacy needs rest but only when Lacy needs rest.
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Lacy is my favorite running back on our team too, but...
I disagree that Stark's only usefulness is to rest Lacy. The contrast of their running styles is a potent weapon, imo. You run a play and Lacy barrels through the gap with his Rhino-style, then later you run the same play and Starks is bobbing and weaving around the same defenders. That change in running style is what can start to wear on defenders. Especially as the game progresses and they're getting tired.
I think it's strategically advantageous to use as many running backs as are having a good day. I liked watching DuJuan Harris run in the pre-season and wouldn't mind seeing him alternate in there more too.
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No shit. This is the playoffs. You think MM is going to fuck around with Starks in any other situation. Kuhn will probably get in on more snaps that Starks so he isn't even close to being relevant unless Lacy blows out a knee
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I love seeing Starks in there. The defenses are never prepared for his runs and Starks runs like a madman now that his touches have been cutback.
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He takes no gains Lacy wouldn't.
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He also gets yards with confident cuts that Lacy misses by stutter-stepping until the hole closes.
Don't disparage the sports car because it's not a semi.
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Have you been watching any of thr games this year? Starks is fairly efficient
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Starks can still produce, but the main trust is in Lacy, needless to say, and Lacy has stepped it up a damn good amount from last year with dual purpose yardage. The main thing with Lacy is his size and he never stops churning those massive legs of his until he is on the ground. THAT is what I like best about him. He never stops trying to make those extra yards happen. His average yards per carry have been damn good this season, especially in the second half of the season.
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Those churning yards are the difference maker in the playoffs.
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Not if you can cut around defenders and not need to power through them like Starks does..
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Hey guys(and gals) remember when we had Jackson and Starks took over in the post season and we won the Superbowl? He he good times.
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Remember when we had Lacy, Franklin, Starks and Harris?
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I'd have to disagree. While Lacy has had better stats than Murray over the past 6 games, Romo had the highest QB rating in December. Does that make him better than Rodgers? I would say no, just like I'd say Murray is better than Lacy even though stats in a single period of time might be higher for one as compared to the other.
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Or his O-line is a far superior run blocking unit. It's nearly impossible to accurately and genuinely compare the 2. OP is just twisting some Dallas nipples.
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Caught me
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While I wouldn't say Murray is a better back he's having a career year and is better this year. Lacy faced Buffalo and Detroit in that time span though so maybe he's just hitting it harder now.
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The beginning of the year was hard for the offense because of the loss at center and replacing Boykin. All occurring against tough Ds.
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While I agree with the example you used, my push back here, is that I feel there is more criteria to passer rating for a QB, than yards for an RB.
If you say, "Romo has the best passer rating in December, does that make him better than Rodgers over that span?" Then I would say yes, Romo had a helluva month. But over the season, I think that TD/INT ratio, carries more weight than completion percentage (which I think was the largest advantage Romo had over Rodgers), therefore I think Rodgers was the better QB over the entire season.
Now I think it's clear Lacy had a better past 6 months than Murray, no question. But over the entire season is a little more difficult to decide. I'm not gonna look up stats, but I think that YPC is more important that total yards to who was the better back, but Murray's production was still phenomenal, and showed his value big time.
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True, but I'm just upvoting this to piss off Dallas fans.
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I thought we didn't need a running back a few years ago.
I retract that!
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Dude... that's an awesome stat and they may have been running him too hard all year, Murray has been carrying that team.
If Lacy has even close to the game Murray has, the Pack will crush the 'boys.
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Murray has been nursing an injured hand for the last month though. He only played on half against Indy and Washington.
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This is true, it's a broken bone somewhere in the middle.
Running backs take a beating over the course of a year in the league, even if Murray is the better back overall right now, he's gotta be getting tired, and Lacy looks pretty fresh, comparatively.
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Wasn't Murray injured (out a game with broken hand?) or was that taken into account?
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He was but didn't miss a game and workload seemingly didn't fall off
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Actually, he sat out the 2nd half against Indy and Washington the last 2 weeks.
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True, I forgot about that. Still touched the ball a significant amount. 22 and 20 carries respectively
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Which is more than he touched it in the playoff game.
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Per carry takes it into account.
Lacy has played through injury as well and it is what it is. Sunday isn't hypothetical.
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Looking at the stats for the year, they almost all say Murray was better. Better YPA, about the same TDs when figuring in attempts, Murray's longest run is longer than Lacy. Lacy does have a better 1st down %. Murray has almost twice as many 20+ yard runs and 3 times as many 40+ yard runs. (Yeah it is 3-1, but that is not as impressive sounding).
That said, Lacy is a damn fine runner. Starks is a good change of pace as well. I have seen games where the D is just keyed up on Lacy, and Starks gives the run game a bit of a jump start. Be glad you have them both. They are a good compliment.
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I LOVE how Starks run, he's so loose and fluid. He glides through defenders, and around the edge.
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Murray Broken Hand*
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Eddie Lacy hip and eye... Excuses.
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That explains the decline in productivity just saying...
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There was no decline for Murray in spite of the hand. You're reaching for the excuse before you know if you need it or not.
Lacy accelerated.
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He had less carries and his lowest avg. Rushing yards all year in the last 3 games, when the break occurred. Lacy did accelerate but I'm just stating that a broken hand slowed Murray down that's all. I don't see why you would possibly be offended by that, And what would I possibly need to make excuses for?
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Well, that's nice and all but Murray has been injured and Dallas definitely has a better O line, at least for run blocking.
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Interesting stats but I don't think they mean much considering Murray has been nursing a hand injury for a while now and his workload has decreased. We'll see on Sunday.
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Huh? Lacy has less carries and more yards and TDs.
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There's more to an offense and a runningback than YPC depending on the system. I'm not the right person to explain what that means but you'd know if you watched the Cowboys play all 16 games this season.
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It's much more accurate to compare the collective Dallas and Green Bay running games. I'll compare their offense to our defense and vice versa.
Depending on your criteria it's basically a coin flip.
The cowboys run offense thrives on attempts, but with attempts comes fumbles, and their run game is no exception. But they can score at a decent clip on the ground. Our defense doesn't allow many rushing TD's (probably due to teams abandoning the run) but we generate a decent amount of fumbles considering the low number of attempts.
Defensively, the Cowboys allow more rushing touchdowns, but cause more fumbles. Similarily The Packers rushing offense turn the ball over less and score at a reasonably good rate. This is where the biggest difference is (not much), and it's to the Packers advantage (slightly, probably the Rodgers effect).
FWIW, our respective defensive and offensive ypa's are basically a wash.
At the end of the day, the differences between our collective run games depends on the Packers or Cowboys getting fast starts. That will change the face of the run game for both teams drastically.
But to suggest that Murray or Lacy will run rampant is ridiculous. Because from an efficiency and production standpoint, both teams are up to either tasks whether defensively or offensively. And both runners have the talent to light it up.
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Stop bringing logical discussion to trash talk.
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I'm Canadian, sorry.
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I'll take Lacy as the better RB within 5 yards of the LOS. The thing that keeps Lacy from being a truly elite running back is that he's got very average speed and a lot of his great runs will only go 20 or 30 yards where an RB recognized as a top RB has that breakaway speed that top receivers do.
For GBs purposes, Lacy is better to have anyway since we need a guy who can win most of the time against a pass look.
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Rather have a guy who can punish and grind out the game than guys who might break away.
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Yup, see CJ2K
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Well Murray has had what? Like 400 carries?
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Murray has 165 more attempts than Lacy this year. That's half a season worth of extra abuse.
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Thats insane when I think about it that way.
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I think lacy and Murray will have about the same yardage but rodgers will out duel romo to end talks of romo being the better qb this year.
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Bingo!!!
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bows lol
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Lacy is more agile[funny considering he's a bigger guy] Murray has more speed. Both are incredibly hard to tackle. Murray is better as a receiver out of the backfield although I wouldn't scoff at Lacy in this regard. People talk about our offensive line but Murray has always been this good, in that game last year he was doing great, this year they just stuck with him.
Check Murray's highlights from 2011,2012,2013..he was always the way he is now, even when we had a shit offensive line he had a great YPC
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Dude, his middle name is darwin. As a fellow with weird ass name (Thaddeus), this makes me feel wonderful inside.
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It would be a mistake IMO to try to win this game with Lacy. All of Dallas' talent is in the front seven (minus Carr) - Rolo, Spencer, Carter, Lawrence. If either team messes up and gets too many three-and-outs this is the type of game that could snowball. I don't disagree with the claim that Lacy > Murray right now (especially with the hand injury), but Rodgers targeting Dallas' secondary is an actual grade-A mismatch. JJ Wilcox was out of position all day against the Lions.
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Murray has been playing with a broken hand... and defenses have been lining up 9 to stop him.
Lacy is > Murray in one way... he is fatter.
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Didn't get to watch the full Dallas game, but saw a shot of Murray flexing and holding his hand. Did he get hit or aggravate it?
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i don't see lacy getting many carries on sunday considering we'll be up 42-0 at half
That's your time to shine!
Kuuuuuuuuuuuuhnnnnnnn
Well, Murray won't be getting many carries either since they'll be passing a lot after our inevitable 28-0 lead in the first quarter
Darth Lacy!!
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