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HCigar Heartbeat DNA 40?

http://www.vapetriad.com/hcigar-box-hb-dna40-evolv-with-temperature-control-protection-pre-order/

This is a Chinese manufactured device with an authentic Evolv DNA 40 inside it. It's up for $101.83 in retail but perhaps a group buy could set the price a little lower? Even at $101 it's already by far the cheapest DNA40 mass produced device on the market.

I know Chinese manufacturers are more inclined to agree to group buys than American ones so this could be our chance to snatch up an authentic DNA40 device. Vape Triad themselves started out as a Canadian group buy before transitioning into an actual store. I think this will be a big hit... affordable authentic DNA40 devices for the first time.

I'm probably going to be buying one myself to tide me over until I can afford a couple more high end DNA40 devices. They ship after CNY so lets see...

Posted Feb 14, 2015, 4:43 AM UTC

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smogLA•

I'm in REALLY tight with Hcigar and have been dying to do an order from them. I've said it before - hcigars box mods don't get the love they deserve. I'm all over this :)

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ewebb07•

That's a damn good price for an authentic dna. I paid $60 for just the chip with shipping. I'd be in on it. I love the temp control

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donttreadonme14•

I could possibly be down for this do they have anything to back up their claim of it being an authentic chip?

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_monadOP•

I think this product is going to be a hit, even for people with high end mods, this is a great back up. I think once the group buy gets going, we should cross post to ecr for more exposure because I know a shit ton of people who really want authentic dna 40 mods but can't afford the $200+ pricetag.

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smogLA•

Where do you get the info that it's an authentic chip?

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_monadOP•

" The HCigar Box Mod HB DNA40 is the lowest priced mass produced mod currently available on the market using the authentic Evolv DNA40 chip set "

Quoted from the product description. This is a Canadian vape distributor so I doubt they'd feed lies to us.

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smogLA•

The guy who runs the site does the same thing I do with smog distribution. To be honest he was an inspiration and he has very close ties with Hcigar as well.

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immurement•

I'm ready! Seriously been wanting a DNA40, but can't afford the 200+ price tag

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Superj569•

I like that hcigar 30watt mini one... I'd be in for one if you were to run it.

In case you are wondering which one I am talking about: http://www.vapetriad.com/hcigar-box-hb-mini-regulated-variable-wattage-7-30w-black-pre-order/

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Monekr•

Really liking the sounds of this. I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for a buy for sure.

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Flavor_Fav•

Interesting design choices there to make it stand out.

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_monadOP•

Not a fan of the front mounted button instead of the standard side button but for the price I won't complain.

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returnity•

Wow this looks like a winner. I'm not sure I believe this is an authentic DNA40 but we will definitely find out. And seriously, Smog & I were just talking about how HCigar's box mods get no love.

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_monadOP•

I believe it... there's an Australian vape shop that sells Hana clones with authentic DNA40s for $105. The chip itself costs $60 so there's plenty of margin to play with. Honestly mods like the hana, Vapor flask, and vapor shark are really overpriced. The Vapor shark is actuslly pretty close to being reasonably priced but these companies reap really high margins and that makes me sad because the chip itself is actually cheaper than the flagship yihi chips.... Sigelei charges like 90 for the 150w, and they make healthy profit too because they use the 330 I think, instead of the flagship chips. If they used the flagship it'd probably be around $110 or $120 max.

Kudos to HCigar for paving the way. Once companies start to realize people aren't buying their overpriced mods anymore, they'll lower their prices in order to compete.

Also, the link I provided clearly states that the mod uses an authentic dna40.

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returnity•

Let me rephrase. I have no reason to believe that Hcigar is lying nor is the price so cheap as to be impossible. What I meant is, I haven't heard anything from Evolv about a China partnership (although, this could be a great explanation for Evolv's trip to China). Similarly, until I see official confirmation of the chip I just have my own personal doubts. I read the link and I'm not doubting the possibility; I'm just saying we're going to try to confirm this ourselves.

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friedchickenwaffles•

Innokin? There's an evolv chip in the svd2, and was rumors of a higher priced mvp3 with one in the works as well.

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_monadOP•

Yeah, Evolv also introduced a 25W temp controlled chip for lower end mods. I'm hoping to see temperature controlled mods in the $60 range with 25W.

Evolv doesn't have any problem working with Chinese companies, nearly every American company has ties to China, combine the innovation of American engineering with the affordability of Chinese manufacturing and you get a great product.

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returnity•

Although i meant DNA TC chips, I'll gladly admit, I did not know that. When did that happen?

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_monadOP•

Yeah Smog has connections with HCigar so I figured he could confirm. Honestly I was a bit skeptical at first as well, but after a bit of thinking I didn't think it was so far fetched. I really wish the market wasn't so fucked up right now, mod manufacturers are jacking up prices because people are actually paying these prices. I'm not gonna lie, I'm guilty as well for buying $300 Vapor Flasks.

I'm hoping that with the introduction of cheaper mods with authentic chips, VF, VS, Hana will be forced to compete. I wouldn't even mind $120-150 tbh, but $250-300 is absolute thievery.

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smogLA•

i thought the smpl and silverplay were great examples of what could be. set a modest price for an authentic and it will sell and people will be happy about it.

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returnity•

Also, Sigelei has cut back the use of Yihi chips to my knowledge, switching to their own in-house designs, which I suspect are probably mostly cloned and derived from the Yihi chips they had insider access to.

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_monadOP•

I heard, a shame since I trust Yihi chips above all.

Really excited about the SX 350J, although not a big fan of the SX mini design.

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returnity•

Yeah, watching the videos of the SX350J in action was SO exciting.

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CoopersPaleAle•

Which Australian vendor is that? I've been searching and cannot locate.

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_monadOP•

http://www.vaporkings.com.au/hana-modz-dna-40-1-1-clone.html

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CoopersPaleAle•

Thanks for that. Sold out. I'm waiting on one from 3fvape, ordered before I knew about this sub

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Hcigar-vapor•

This is a great start in China, we will develop more great products and great supplier, we will be at a lower price to provide our better service.Like DNA40, we spend a lot of money to buy from abroad, we ensure that each product quality are great, we need to know what we should do.Also please believe that we will do better, we have no more cloned in 2015, we are looking forward to closer cooperation and communication with you

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jivanyatra•

I'm interested if the price is right. Anyone have exact dimensions? I'm curious about the size.

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Nibiru2020•

Dimensions: 90mm x 50mm x 23mm

In inches it is: 3.54" Tall x 1.97" wide x .90" thick

It's a little shorter by about a 1/4", about 7/16" wider than the iPV Mini 30 MOD So it looks a 23mm RTA such as Taifun will fit just fine.
The 510 is a little offset though if you have seen Todd's Review about it.

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returnity•

Did they fuck up the pricing or something? It's listed for $125 now, not $101 =[

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_monadOP•

Yeah that vendor raised prices. http://www.gvapers.com/collections/preorders/products/hcigarhbdna40

Reddit10 puts the price at around $108.

Not buying from either though, gonna wait for the smog gb.

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returnity•

Smart man! Good things come to those who wait.

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_monadOP•

How long do you think it'll take to arrange this GB? I know most Chinese companies take breaks for CNY but an approximate time frame would be nice to work with.

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returnity•

Literally the second they come back from CNY we will be pedal to the medal. We want to be first at the door for these.

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returnity•

Did that "vendor" seriously screenshot Triad's image ON A CELLPHONE and copypasta their description? wow.

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_monadOP•

I noticed lol....

The struggle of asking the manufacturer for some pics....

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VonWeinertonne•

If the price is right I'd be game.

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NameThatWasntTaken•

I'de really like a dual 18650 dna-40 :(

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priest19843•

PM me when this GB goes live I would love to own a authentic DNA 40 device and I don't mind single 18650 I get the life I need oit of just one. I really want temp control. Its the only reason for me to upgrade from my zna 30. Thanks much.

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Nibiru2020•

Vapor Tek in South Carolina now has the HCigar Heartbeat DNA 40 for $95.00 plus shipping. http://www.vaportekusa.com/hcigar-dna-40-with-heartbeat-by-evolv-chip-not-a-clone/

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