GD/SQ/WSAYWT - 4/8/15

General Discussion

QOTD: What is the best/worst/strongest/weirdest leather smell you've yet encountered?

Posted Apr 8, 2015, 1:48 PM UTC

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Deusis11.5D. RBC, Viberg, Alden•
  • WSIWT: Meermin Double Monks.
  • AOTD: Shell Cordovan is obviously the best smell. I've said it before, but I have a plastic bag filled with all the small scraps I've ever cut off of shells or wallets (or small unusable pieces) and the bag smells glorious.
  • Leather Stuff: I bought 25 square feet of Shell Cordovan yesterday. All Shinki Hikaku. 18 square feet of brown and about 6 square feet of black.
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piriecaChief Enabler•

I did not know you had Meermin double monks. Looks great dude. I'm going to grab some as a dress shoe purchase in the future. Also what shirt is that?

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Deusis11.5D. RBC, Viberg, Alden•

I do! I've had them for awhile and they're rarely worn. Very comfortable though.

It is a J.Crew Heritage shirt.

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astemaRW Iron Rangers•

Is that the dark brown or burgundy? Looks really nice. What are you wearing for the rest of the outfit?

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Deusis11.5D. RBC, Viberg, Alden•

It is dark brown. Pants are just Gap Lived In Slim Chino. Shirt is a J.Crew Heritage shirt. Jacket is Gap denim. Belt is a Chestnut Bridle made by me.

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astemaRW Iron Rangers•

Solid outfit, thanks!

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Deusis11.5D. RBC, Viberg, Alden•

Thanks!

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TichoBlanco•

Great color palette on your fit. Also, we're double monk bros today. Still trying to decide if I like these, or just keep reaching for them on rainy days because they're my only non-leather sole

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Skell6009Viberg, Carmina, Enzo Bonafe•

Those look great with those pants. Who makes the pants and shoes?

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TichoBlanco•

Thanks man. Shoes are from Meermin. Pants are Paul Smith.

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gazimoff11 UK: Cheaney, C&J, RedWing, Fluevog, Loake•

I love everything about this outfit. Where's the jacket from? It seems to have a slight greenish hue to it - is that right?

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Deusis11.5D. RBC, Viberg, Alden•

It's actually just a Gap denim jacket. The lighting is just bad. Not much green to it. Thanks though!

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Neurophil9.5D, LLBean, Rancourt, RW, Rider, Meermin, need mo' shoes•

wanted to thank you for pointing me to that guide yesterday btw. Gonna look into getting an awl and some other supplies as well soon.

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Deusis11.5D. RBC, Viberg, Alden•

No problem! Let me know if you have any questions.

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MT1982•

but I have a plastic bag filled with all the small scraps I've ever cut off of shells or wallets (or small unusable pieces) and the bag smells glorious.

Great, now I'm picturing your wife walking in on you while you're huffing the bag like a drug addict.

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stevenkmasonSize 15E/16D Giant Feet•

WSAYWT third wear of the sharkskin boots. Went for a black and blue thing (mmmm black and blue burger sounds good). Gustin jeans, luxire flannel, alpha industries slim n3b. Does it work?

Going in to work late today because I had to pick up a box of baby chicks from the post office. I'll post more later.

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imagoodusernameAmericana•

How's that luxire flannel?

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stevenkmasonSize 15E/16D Giant Feet•

I love it. It was super cheap too ($60?). Thick and warm, great construction details. I might only get another few wears out of it before I gotta hang it up for the summer. Definitely too warm for anything 75+. Luckily summer is only a couple months here in Michigan.

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Micrafone_AssAssinsneakers...sneakers everywhere•

The texture on those boots looks awesome

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stevenkmasonSize 15E/16D Giant Feet•

Thanks man. I've gotten either compliments, people asking what they were, or people saying they look like avocados.

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imbetterthanandrew•

Woah just curious how does the shipping of animals work? I had no idea that was even a thing!

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Neurophil9.5D, LLBean, Rancourt, RW, Rider, Meermin, need mo' shoes•

love that luxire flannel. don't see too many blue black check flannels. Looks fantastic.

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stevenkmasonSize 15E/16D Giant Feet•

Thanks doggy. I like it too. They have a couple other flannels I'd like to order but I'll probably wait until the end of the summer. I need to order some chambrays and linens soon.

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optional22OP•

AOTD: Viberg CXL has been the strongest so far. It absolutely filled my apartment when I first got them. It was a bad smell at first, but it quickly grew on me, actually.

WSAYWT: If you aren't sick of seeing my new boots yet, here they are. Moto's 'U Tip High Cut Shoes' in natural CXL.

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piriecaChief Enabler•

I've been on an absolute Moto binge recently. These to me are like the perfect moc toe boot. Do you get them direct or through Rakuten?

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optional22OP•

Direct. They are pretty killer so far. Just be careful with sizing.

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ThaiToast•

How did you size? I learned the hard way that their size 3 was just a touch too small for me.

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optional22OP•

I asked them, and they said a 3. I got it, and it feels a touch big. I hope it doesn't stretch out like CXL normally does (this is a thick leather, and I think it's mostly lined). If I have to, I'll just double down on socks and use an insole.

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shootsfilmwithbulletno handsewn summer•

I've loved pretty much everything they put out. Now I just have to convince them to make larger sizes. I would love to get my feet into their wingtip boot.

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MT1982•

Those are the darkest natty CXL I've ever seen! Toes look natty, rest looks brown. Neat boots!

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piriecaChief Enabler•

For anyone interested, Broughton Boots completed their kickstarter and launched their website. First boots going out this week. Would love to see a review on them, pricing plonks them at just below Tricker's, C&J, and above Loake and Barker.

I'm having an internal struggle. I'm looking for a good smooth leather PTB that I could wear casually and to work. However, I also really want to own these. Why are my tastes so casual? If anyone has good ones I should look at let me know!

Also missed out on some Grassmeres on eBay. That would've been nice.

AOTD: I got 3 shoe deliveries in 2 weeks a month ago. My room has smelled like leather since.

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Greg-V•

Wish the Broughtons didn't use blind eyelets.

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go_greengoAE, Alden, Viberg, Yuketen, Rider, Dayton•

I suggest checking out Ron Rider. They have three different PTB. This one looks versatile http://riderboot.com/shop/rider-boot-co-walker-derby-dark-brown-calf/

I really like mine. I'm starting to wear it to work all the time. The leather is scotch grain so IMO it adds to its casualness.

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Micrafone_AssAssinsneakers...sneakers everywhere•

I'm considering maybe doing a Dayton PTB down the line. Depending on what they have for leather of course.

Bc casual clothing is more fun that's why.

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wantsomepie•

I'm thinking of doing the same lol. Gonna get a pair of service boots in charcoal nubuck, and if I like them I'm thinking of getting another service boot with commando sole and a ptb, probably 1 in bourbon predator and 1 in mocha oil tan.

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Micrafone_AssAssinsneakers...sneakers everywhere•

That's a good plan, the mocha oil looks so dope on vibergs. I'm actually inquiring about derbies right now to see what lasts and leathers they will offer, just out of curiosity.

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wantsomepie•

Yeah I went to their store and the mocha oil tan looks incredible in person. Pictures on Dayton's instagram do not do it justice. Let me know what you hear from them!

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shootsfilmwithbulletno handsewn summer•

Do they do PTBs? I thought they only did derbys

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Micrafone_AssAssinsneakers...sneakers everywhere•

Plain toe blucher is a derby...?

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shootsfilmwithbulletno handsewn summer•

Similar but not exactly the same. This should help. Ignore the Moc toe

Edit: Derby vs. Blucher

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glyoung10D/E - Vass, C&J, EG, AE•

Get these EG in shell if it's in your size

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piriecaChief Enabler•

Those are brilliant but sadly not my size!

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go_greengoAE, Alden, Viberg, Yuketen, Rider, Dayton•

dat last tho

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gazimoff11 UK: Cheaney, C&J, RedWing, Fluevog, Loake•

They do look good. I'm with you though - I'd want to take a close look at them before stumping up the cash. Do you know if they're making them themselves, or if it's contracted out to someone else?

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piriecaChief Enabler•

I know they are made in Northampton. Not sure who by though.

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NayyyyyUK 7F sheep•

According to a post 4 months back they were based in Soho and the owner offered to for one of us lot based in London to check them out.

Maybe one of you Londoners can go on an expedition and report back? :P

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piriecaChief Enabler•

Right, that post was actually in response to me, and I literally work in Soho. I'm going to get in touch with them and see if I can get hands on.

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NayyyyyUK 7F sheep•

Ah that's good then! I just skim read the post, whoops.

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phratespretend english •

C&J Grasmeres are definitely a good choice. I wear them to work at a bank, and with jeans and stuff on the weekends. Then we'd have two of the same derbies...

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Skell6009Viberg, Carmina, Enzo Bonafe•

u/makemewaffles Here's the new pebble grain leather It looks nice, but not different enough for me to get rid of the current pair.

Wings + Horns Service boots. going to go outside and take some pictures right now. I'll post a new thread since it's been 4 months since I've bought them. u/Nydeeit u/bootsnpantsnboots

edit: DSLR battery is dead so give me a little more time lol

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makemewafflesno-show socks•

I like the leather on our pairs better actually. Going to burnish mine a bit more to get even more contrast, hopefully turns out well.

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Skell6009Viberg, Carmina, Enzo Bonafe•

Yeah me too. The new one looks like any other pebble grain. Ours looks pretty unique IMO.

My pair looks pretty much like yours but I'm happy with the amount of contrast. I'll consider burnishing mine if yours turns out well. ;)

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gazimoff11 UK: Cheaney, C&J, RedWing, Fluevog, Loake•

I'll be wearing these later, but I put a quick gallery together showing the stages of using Saphir on leather boots. It's not much, but I figure it might help?

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thatisgrossmanBoot-ylicious•

**AOTD:**I got a weekender bag in Italian calf and it was sooo heavily dyed and glazed (not in a bad way, the color was very solid and great) that I could smell the leather smell and also a separate strong dye/glaze smell. It was weird. Went away after a week though. Must have been fresh! :) haha

WAYWT: Raining today, but I'm Prepared

Bonus cat in a strawberry photo: http://i.imgur.com/EjkBB3s.jpg

Bonus cat in a strawberry in distress photo:http://i.imgur.com/6v45mGh.jpg

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Neurophil9.5D, LLBean, Rancourt, RW, Rider, Meermin, need mo' shoes•

are those brown rider ottawas?

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thatisgrossmanBoot-ylicious•

I wish I had a pair of those... These are waxed flesh Diemme Roccia Vets. Stand up pretty damn well in the rain.

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Neurophil9.5D, LLBean, Rancourt, RW, Rider, Meermin, need mo' shoes•

They look great regardless! I'm still waiting on gettin my ottawas back from Ron so these made me nostalgic. I guess it's only been two weeks since he got them so presumably it took some time to get them to his guy in VA. I miss them though haha

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thatisgrossmanBoot-ylicious•

Haha thanks! Yeah that must be tough as early Spring and late Fall really are perfect times for footwear like this. Hopefully they come back better than ever though!

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knocksteaady-livemoose boots•

outfit when i was in new york

trip was great, lots of pictures and lots of eats from a couple of restaurants that users suggested here. pies and thighs as well as bon chon were my favorite meal. fried chicken is the shit.

i agree with op, viberg cxl was the strongest smell and boy did it smell good to me.

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TRBlizzard121Red Wing (875 & 8111), Santalum (GMTO WF), OSB Trail Oxford•

What restaurants were recommended to you?

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knocksteaady-livemoose boots•

pies and thighs, bon chon, taverna kyclades, patsys, artichoke pizza, peter luger, robertas, dinosaur bbq, jerk pan. went to most of those and was not underwhelmed.

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TRBlizzard121Red Wing (875 & 8111), Santalum (GMTO WF), OSB Trail Oxford•

Love dinosaur bbq

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paulse•

Looks awesome. Was the rest of the crue jealous of your bergs?

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knocksteaady-livemoose boots•

they kept saying, 'you ain't gonna climb those rocks at central park,' and i said screw you guys, i'ma climb them

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Skell6009Viberg, Carmina, Enzo Bonafe•

You go sockless in your bergs? Or are you wearing no shows?

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knocksteaady-livemoose boots•

no shows for days. they're the only socks i have.

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go_greengoAE, Alden, Viberg, Yuketen, Rider, Dayton•

I'm glad you enjoy the trip. Any highlights? And nice boots! Where did you picked them up from?

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knocksteaady-livemoose boots•

MoMA was definitely a highlight. i stopped by leffot and felt super out of place. they didn't seem to have any carminas in shop, all exclusively edward green, g&g, and st. crispin. my boots are vibergs from lost&found in toronto!

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Skell6009Viberg, Carmina, Enzo Bonafe•
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knocksteaady-livemoose boots•

that'd be a good idea, make sure to wear some quality shoes. i wore beaters to leffot and maybe they thought less of me, haha.

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ImmiscibleSantalum•

Is it really comfortable to have your boots laced so loosely?

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knocksteaady-livemoose boots•

yeah i like them a bit looser, i find that the shaft doesn't wrinkle as much when they're loose either.

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ImmiscibleSantalum•

Wow that's surprising. I always get pain in the top of my foot if my shoes/boots are too loose. Never knew that wasn't a universal thing!

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knocksteaady-livemoose boots•

at the top of your foot being like near your big toe?

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CblP•

WSIWT - Rancourt Beefrolls

side shot

AOTD: the first pair of GYW shoes I received - AE McAllisters, I definitely didn't expect the smell to be so strong.

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a_robot_with_dreams•

The strongest and strangest smell was probably my old AE walnut daltons. Seriously, those things were pungent and scented up whole rooms. They smelled like a stack of 100 shells on top of each other. u/6t5g can confirm

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Neurophil9.5D, LLBean, Rancourt, RW, Rider, Meermin, need mo' shoes•

Wait your calf daltons smelled like shell? Which brings up the second question, what does shell smell like?

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a_robot_with_dreams•

walnut shell daltons

I'm not a connoisseur of smells, so I have no idea how to describe the scent

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Neurophil9.5D, LLBean, Rancourt, RW, Rider, Meermin, need mo' shoes•

well that makes a lot more sense. Fair enough haha. I've handled alden shell before but never noticed a strong smell or anything

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cobashkCarmina master race•

Alden shell to me smells a little stronger than AE and Carmina. My AE shell was like stale candy, carmina is like less stale candy, and Alden is a little gasoline-y maybe

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Neurophil9.5D, LLBean, Rancourt, RW, Rider, Meermin, need mo' shoes•

so I've only handled alden shell before, an NST shoe in color 8, an indy in color 8, and a black shell gunboat. I didn't handle them extensively and I didn't notice any particular smell, but I also didn't put my nose up to them either. Next time I'll take a better look/smell

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cobashkCarmina master race•

Maybe they had been sitting out for a while? My #8 Alden PTBs are so strong that I can smell them from above while driving.

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Micrafone_AssAssinsneakers...sneakers everywhere•

AOTD: the oil tan RO I have reminds me of peanut butter for some reason.

WAYWT: [Navy Merino v neck/white CT button down/jomers wool/Sperrys] (http://imgur.com/XANzcHB). I'm not sure why i chose to wear brown suede wingtips with this, but I did. Not sure if I like it much though... Should start picking out what I'm wearing the night before so I'm not half conscious doing it at 6am. [Pants texture shot] (http://imgur.com/M5c0N3P).

Bought some soap and a candle when I was wicked drunk at that beerfest this weekend, and I've been using it everyday since and it's made my skin feel unbelievable. It's made of olive, coconut, castor, and other vegetable oils plus natural ingredients and made some special way to be better for you blah blah blah. I ate that shit up when I was drunk haha. The company is called urban kitchen soaps or something. I got the sandal wood and walnut soap and it smells great. I'll probably use this over Dr bronners once I run out of it (which may be forever bc it's a huge jug). Some of the scents they had were fantastic, and the bars look pretty cool. Also got the peppermint eucalyptus candle too. Funfunfun.

Snagged this [w+h] (https://shopacrimony.com/products/wings-horns-overdyed-foliage-print-poplin-shirt) over dyed foliage print shirt from eastdane last night. Seems like it could be interesting, and for 44 bucks shipped it seems worth it.

Fun fact: found out Dayton will give you coupon codes if you leave stuff in your cart. I got ten percent off my second payment for my boots yay.

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dtown4eva•

A 10% code is nice. How does dayton work again? You purchase them and then Andrew contacts you about sizing and you send in a tracing?

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Micrafone_AssAssinsneakers...sneakers everywhere•

I reached out to him first to ask about options and what not. He had me fill out sizing (tracings and measurements, you need a buddy to help) and then I ordered them and paid fifty percent down and the second payment last night. If I knew about the code I probably would have paid it up front with it but honestly I don't even mind bc he helped me so much they deserve it.

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stevenkmasonSize 15E/16D Giant Feet•

You did the charcoal nubuck right?

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Micrafone_AssAssinsneakers...sneakers everywhere•

Horween predator bourbon with black ithside commando (the dainite one)

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Neurophil9.5D, LLBean, Rancourt, RW, Rider, Meermin, need mo' shoes•

AOTD: probably the smell of CXL is the strongest. I like it. I also love the smell of coconut oil which I know isn't really a leather smell but I only use it to condition my boots so I associate it as such

GD: u/TRBlizzard121, you asked for a denim jacket inspo album, I found a pretty good one on MFA here. I also compiled a small album of my fits with my trucker. I even threw a couple double denim fits in there in case you want to get wild. Here it is. Trucker's are pretty versatile in my opinion. Have fun making fits with your new jacket!!

WSIWT

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sundowntgLeather Sourcing•

WSAYWT: Bostonian Shell PTB

QOTD: The smell of pallets of wet blue is by far the most memorable

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Bergolies•

Is that not microcreasing?

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cobashkCarmina master race•

Looks like shell rolls + bloom

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Bergolies•

Thanks, the picture below shows it much better.

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sundowntgLeather Sourcing•

I think it's an quirk of the photography. The area that is in the roll has taken a bit more of a beating and has lost some luster.

Here is a better view.

They are certainly due for a polishing.

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Bergolies•

Excellent, nice close-up!

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sundowntgLeather Sourcing•

Thanks. They were the best drunk ebay pickup I could have hoped for.

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Neurophil9.5D, LLBean, Rancourt, RW, Rider, Meermin, need mo' shoes•

Bostonian as in Clarks Bostonian? These are vintage I assume from before they were acquired by Clarks in 1979?

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sundowntgLeather Sourcing•

Vintage of some indeterminate date. Any idea when production shifted out of the US?

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Neurophil9.5D, LLBean, Rancourt, RW, Rider, Meermin, need mo' shoes•

There is such a dearth of information about bostonian, I've tried to learn more but I can't really find much online. I know that clarks acquired them in 1979. I think at least up until 1979 they were miUSA. I'm guessing it took a couple years to shift production to outside the US so I'd place the shift at some time in the mid-80s if I was to make an educated guess, but this is largely speculation.

I just unearthed a thread on AAAC about a pair of bostonians from 93 that were miUSA. so maybe even later than that. I'm trying to find some more info though.

edit: user wolfhound986 on AAAC suggested that bostonian stopped us production around 99-00

cardinals5 also has some good knowledge of history of nettleton and hanover (and by extension some bostonian knowledge as well). At least until 1996 bostonian was miUSA as they were made in the same factory as hanover shoes at the time. I'd say the estimate of 1999-2000 as the shift years to outsourced production could very well be accurate.

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sundowntgLeather Sourcing•

Thanks for the research. It's a shame that this kind of stuff is so under-documented.

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6t5g10D•

I feel like I know you so much more now that I know what your ebay account is...

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sundowntgLeather Sourcing•

haha

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Bergolies•

WSIWT: Since the arrival of my Quoddys, I've been neglecting these poor babies.

MRW I forget the self-timer.

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YourMoneyOrYourLife•

SQ: How can you tell whether leather needs to be conditioned? I've read that if it feels rough and dry I should condition it, but I just conditioned my 7 month old Chippewa's and I'm not sure if I need another coat because the leather, although it has darkened slightly, feels pretty much the same as before.

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AlotofhellsI am 35 and bald.•

WSIAWT: Rancourt Natty Beefs

My first exposure to Chromexcel was unexpected. After a few days it mellowed into a pleasant enough smell.

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Forester263L: 9.5D // R: 9.0E•

WSAIWT: Dayton Service Boots, recently acquired from u/sun_d. Cell phone pics don't do them justice. I'll put together a proper review soon.

AoTD: Probably my chromepak Quoddys during the first few weeks. The smell was so strong I had a few co-workers ask "what is that smell??" when they entered my office.

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bigd0gChippewa | LL Bean | Otabo | Allen Edmonds | 13D US•

SQ: Anyone have any experience with Petri Polish shoe conditioner? Claims to be all natural. What are the proven all natural conditioners?

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casechopperBoot addict•

Red Wing by J. Crew Iron Rangers in Brick Settler

Best smell is the jacket I have on today. I'm not sure what makes one leather smell better than others but this jacket smells good. Most of my other jackets don't have any smell at all. The smell on any leather item seems to go away after a few years. Shoes seem to lose their smell faster which is probably due to the heavy use they get.

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