r/Nexus7•
tkdguy

2012 N7. Unbearable lag since 5.0. Like a brand new tablet on 5.1.1. Anyone else?

32 GB. The difference is amazing.

Posted May 7, 2015, 12:19 AM UTC

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dungeonmstr16 GB '12•

Yes, I was a bit cautious to start shouting from the hills at first but after a good few days usage I feel I can agree that performance is much better now. Very pleasantly surprised.

I wouldn't go as far as saying it is completely fixed and back to how it was when it was brand new, but at least the thing is usable now.

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candidly1•

5.0 was horrific; almost threw it out the window.

5.0.1 was a bit better.

5.1 was a big improvement.

5.1.1 does feel close to new again, but I am not a good barometer of battery life; it stays in the dock quite a bit.

2012 N7 only OTA updates

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TheRipePunani16 GB '12•

This more or less matches my experience with the Lollipop updates.

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Budge-O-Matic•

Same device. Same experience. OtA only.

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candidly1•

Not kidding about 5.0, either; that thing was THIS CLOSE to becoming a Frisbee...

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whativebeenhiding•

Still lagging from trim issues?

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candidly1•

I don't know what trim issues are, but it doesn't feel laggy at all, no. I'm not exactly a power user of the thing, though...

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PizzaParrot•

Better than f2fs KitKat?

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tkdguyOP•

I don't know. I've never done that. But it seems as fast as it ever has now.

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jdeeds121•

Since f2fs KitKat is working for me I don't want to make a switch. When I first install 5.0 it was great and then a week later it lagged terribly. I don't see a reason to switch

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memout•

I find 5.1.1 much better than 5.0, but not "like a brad new tablet" better.

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swollenmonkey•

Back to its former glory. So far so good. Will keep people posted

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l-rs2•

Yes, it responds a whole lot better now (2012 N7 32GB as well) - where before I timed up to ten seconds before a response. After most earlier OTA's the tablet did perform better initially, but soon went south anyway. The improved performance seems to stick but I'll be certain in a week or so.

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LiquidPaper•

I sideloaded 5.1.1 on my 16G and is back to it's former self. There are a couple of random app crashes that may be due to not erasing the data partition. But really, it become useful again. BTW, I am typing this on it!

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NachoPiggie•

Same here so far, but just getting started with it. Fingers crossed...

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superserious1112•

happened to me... then 3 weeks later it bricked at the google logo ..keeps rebooting

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bugsbunnystew•

This is sweet news. Will update today!

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KE55•

Mine still lags badly with 5.1.1. Setting the background process limit to 2 in developer options has helped, but it's not ideal.

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juitar16 GB•

I've got the 2013 N7, but same thing though. 5.0 was bad and 5.1 fixed it. Just got 5.1.1 last night so I haven't had a chance to play with it.

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pegun•

Same here. I was getting rather annoyed with that system update notice in the taskbar though. I put off even the 4.4.4 update for months.

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5c00by•

My 32 gig 2012 3g is going strong on just stock and ota updates. Had a scare one day but so far so good as of today!

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gannon6790•

I just updated mine a couple of days ago. Speed is much better but I think I'm down on battery life. It was down 25% last night after being off then charger for 15 hrs and 1:45 of screen time.

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triculious•

Last time I updated to lollipop my N7 became near unusable. Sluggish performance and crashes were more common than mosquitoes on a swamp.

I finally learned how to get it back to kitkat and it's back to the tablet I loved back in 2012. I'm not really sure I want to go through the process once again if 5.1.1 doesn't work as intended.

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ForeverUnclean16 GB•

I'm looking to go back to Kitkat. I'm using 5.1.1 and it's still pretty much unusable for me. Do you have a guide that you followed to get it back to Kitkat? I'm stock everything and not rooted.

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triculious•

Same as I.

I followed this one. Watch the video, it's useful as it seems the text skips some steps.

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ForeverUnclean16 GB•

Nice, thanks.

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fuzzo16 GB '12•

using chrome or kindle app still locks mine up

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trolljoy•

If a flash seems to boost you, it was probably trim not running or something.

Here are my "real life metrics":

Scenario 1:

  1. Install "reddit is fun"
  2. Go to r/videos
  3. Tap a youtube link and see how long it takes to open youtube

Scenario 2:

  1. gmail yourself a link
  2. tap the link from inside gmail, thereby opening chrome
  3. See how long chrome takes to open

Scenario 3:

  1. Open Chrome
  2. Tap in the URL bar to start typing a search pattern
  3. See how long or if it gives you a wait/quit prompt it takes so long

All of these are unacceptable to me on 5.x (even with F2FS) on the 2012.

  1. Downgrade to 4.2.2.
  2. Install m-kernel mr1. (this step is optional, it has a better io scheduler for our tablet though)
  3. root, install adblock plus (our tablet are too slow for ads, its a turbo for us)
  4. Open chrome for the first time and DISABLE CHROME SYNC

I'm in the 4.2.2 club, no F2FS Kitkat needed.

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mobugs•

Everytime someone does a fresh install they post something like this. The os isn't making a difference, in a few days it will be it's slug self again

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tkdguyOP•

I didn't wipe the device. I just did an OTA update.

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mobugs•

I see... Well I'm sure that still clears cache and other stuff.

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Innovative_Wombat•

Yeah, my 2012 N7 is IMO, faster than brand new.

But there are reports of serious problems with others.

Has Google simply just given up on quality control testing?

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