New player! Don't know where to start!

Question

Hey guys, I just started this game yesterday and the multitude of mechanics have stumped me. I just want to know where and what I should invest in.

I know that I've missed some event characters but out of the ones given out through the story, which ones should I use in my party of 5?

For equipment, should I just use whatever I have and leave the upgrading till I can get some 5 star equipment? (Haven't gotten any yet unfortunately)

For abilities, which ones are essential for me to create?

Finally, where should I invest my stamina right now: the storyline, the event, or the weekly dungeons?

There's a lot of different things in this game which creates a steep learning curve so any help is appreciated. Thanks!

Posted May 7, 2015, 2:23 AM UTC

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MarneshiProviding you with battle music•

Starting off, I suggest clearing as much of the storyline as you easily can. Each stage gives you stamina shards, which increase your maximum stamina, letting you play longer before needing to stop. You'll also unlock all the available characters rather quickly! Once you start running into roadblocks, then start the daily dungeons on Easy, and Normal when you can do them easily. Now, a little general advice, in no particular order:

  • Save your 1* gear for now. You'll want to replace it eventually, but it's quite useful at this point in the game. If you get multiples of equipment, you can combine them to make them stronger. Each item can be combined twice, increasing the star each time as well. Example: Kunai (IV) is a 1* dagger, you can combine it twice to make it a 3* Kunai++ (IV).
  • Pay attention to Realm Synergy. Using a weapon or armor in the world it originates from gives it a huge power boost. Huge meaning a 1* sword with RS is usually as powerful as a 3* sword without. Add to my first point about combining items, you can clear all the standard dungeons with just basic gear combined up to max levels.
  • Cloud is one of the best characters in the game, even in the japanese version which is 5-6 months ahead of ours. It's worth it to keep him well equipped in your party. Rydia is a great black mage, though some event characters outpace her eventually. Josef (II) has one of the highest strength stats for a non-event character and has a great equipment selection. Otherwise, you'll generally want to keep the other guys at a decent level and use them for Realm Synergy.
  • Do not underestimate Tyro. He has lower stats than any of the Named units, but being able to equip almost EVERY item and use EVERY skill means he can fill in any spot on your team. For this reason, until you get a good event healer, he makes an excellent white mage. Give him heavy armor and stick him in the back row with a staff, and he's practically invincible.
  • Make whatever 1* abilities you want, they'll generally be temporary and replaced eventually. That said, Blade Blitz is quite useful, as are the basic elemental spells.
  • You'll want to make the following 2* abilities: Cura, Fira/Blizzara/Thundara, Thunder Strike, Double Cut, Retaliate, Jump. Once you can grind for 3* orbs, make Power/Armor/Magic/Mental Break, they really help fighting bosses.
  • I personally recommend saving your mythril for 11 pulls, it's more cost effective to hold off. That said, if you see an item you REALLY want, go ahead and do a few single pulls if you're prepared to not get it. The drop rate is low, so waiting for 11 pulls makes it more likely (but not a guarantee.)
  • Finally, you'll want to eventually increase your inventory up to at least 150. Don't worry about upgrading it until you actually need the space, but it's a solid investment of mythril.

Hopefully this gets you started. Welcome to the subreddit, and enjoy the game!

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jeffersdaigleMog•

i would honestly run the celes event a few times on easy. easy levels and will get you a 2* sword in a decent amount of time. otherwise my recommendation is to start a new world and check your stamina shards and what you get for completion and mastery. if you'll go over the 5 shards, it will refill your stamina completely. I grind a level then until almost out and then go use the free refill.

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OriginalMeritI want to know you. The *real* you.•

I would seriously focus on getting Celes at the moment. Take a look at the post I made here -> http://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/33la8t/brand_new_should_i_event/cqm0438

Basically, swap out the word Aeris with Celes and swap out 4k shards with 8k memories and the same method applies.

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DauntlessLightOpera Floozy•

Use whomever is best for you. The best type of party is 3 frontline fighters, one black magic user, and one white magic user. Usually you want one fighter who can use Support abilities, because they're helpful.

Upgrade as you go. Preferably with Tuesday/Friday upgrade mats. Avoid shields, they get outclassed.

One of each elemental Black Magic, One of each Cure spell, Spellblade and Support abilities. 3 Blade Bashes and 3 Double Cuts. Skip Charge. Breaks will help with bosses.

Firstly, invest your stamina in events. They will get easier as you go on, and the characters are the most important thing. They also only last for a limited time. Next, put your stamina in the Classic Dungeons. It will boost and refresh your stamina. Do classic dungeons to get characters, and help you tackle events. The Daily Dungeons are important. Do them whenever you can.

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Sesquicentennial•

It is pretty steep! Welcome to the community. It's an interesting place once you get into it, as you may already have found.

Everyone's opinion will vary. Be prepared for that ;) I really think there are 2-3 bots made for this sub JUST to down-vote threads. Maybe the mentality is that they down-vote things they are not interested in. In any case, it's typical reddit.

When I started, there was very little to worry about.
I'd say do what I did, and play through the storyline on normal.
You get a ton of extra stamina by the time you are finished, which will help dailies/events along the way.

Don't worry about synergy until you are completely stuck. Yes you /can/ worry about it now, but because you'll level up so fast, it doesn't matter really.

For characters, it also doesn't matter. Maybe use Rydia when you get her, but other than that, just level what you want. Use Tyro until you really feel like replacing him.

All the other chars (aside from fighter/knight) will be kinda useful much later in the game, so playing them now will not be hurtful.

If you are here to min/max, then start reading as you get stuck. I wouldn't worry about time. This event is not super good in any case, so even you skip it, you will be fine.

Abilities, cure, cura. Don't hurt yourself figuring out which abilities to get now other than that, because you won't need em till you get stuck. Look up the boss you get stuck at, find it's weakness (sleep, blind, lighning, etc) and go from there.

EDIT: one thing I regret, from the beginning, is I sold things every time I was full on inventory. Try to level up a weapon for each person in your group, using other items you find along the way in the storyline. Keep all 3* plus weaps though. After that, you have to worry about it much less because the dailies will make that process way easier.

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G-FSvENever played a FF before :s•

Very first rule: SAVE MYTHRIL!!! You can never have enough of it, so don't be stupid like I was when I was new and didn't know anything and spend it on heals and stamina refills :P

Characters you might wanna try: Cloud, Celes (if you can get her now), Kain, Wakka, Rydia, Josef. (but don't forget, you might want a dedicated healer and mage too and Record Synergy or RS for short is always good)

Equipment: Use whatever you have now (especially if it has RS) Although it is good to do a few relic pulls early on as this will help you clear content better. You don't need 5* equipment to complete everything. It's good, but not necessary.

Good abilities: Spellblades (for Cloud and Celes), -Ra and -Ga spells (e.g. thundara, thundaga) Heals and Double Cut are some good ones you can craft early on that are beneficial in the long run.

Stamina: If you haven't got Celes yet i'd recommend doing that. Otherwise right now the best thing is probably Flan farming for exp. (various threads explain this, just search them up)

Hope this is of any use to you (I tried my best lol) Always good to help the new ones out ;)

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AngusTamOP•

Are spellblades the Physical abilities or the "other" ones? How do I compare the damage of a regular attack and an ability so I know which does more?

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PhdontDon't call him Orko•

Spellblades refers to the Strike series of abilities on the other tab. Fire/Thunder/Ice/Drain, etc. It's a specific school of abilities. Currently we have Cloud/Tyro/Celes able to equip spellblade abilities.

As far as attack damage, there is a great thread on how to calculate the amount.

There are a lot of variables, but abilities typically hit harder once your characters are at a decent level. With the current content, decent to me is >lvl 30 outfitted with 3* or higher gear.

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G-FSvENever played a FF before :s•

Spellblades are a type of abilities found in the ¨Other¨ tab. Hold them to see their stats and what type of ability they are. Also, you can go to your party, tap party again, and once more so you can access who you want to put in your party. Now if you hold-tap a character and click usable, you can see which type of ability they can use and up to how many stars they can use. For example if you hold Cloud and tap usable you will see that he can use 4* spellblades. This means he can use spellblade abilities up to 4* level such as Drain Strike or Thunder Strike. If you tap Celes you see that she can use 5* Spellblade abilities. This means she can use ¨Flare Strike¨ (5*) but Cloud however cannot use this ability.

Look into who can use which abilties and avoid making abilties they cannot use.

For damage calculation, higher star abilities typically do more damage or have a higher chance to inflict a status effect. There are also threads on this reddit where you can calculate and compare the damage different abilities do with eachother.

Celes might seem better than Cloud because she can use 5* Spellblades, but Clouds stats are better overall and nobody can craft 5* abilities yet so he is technically a better choice.

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pintboxMath saves world•
  1. For characters, here is a neat guide: http://www.ffrkguide.com/guideDetails.aspx?i=6

  2. For equipment, record synergy is very important, so for starters don't throw away all your 1* item, but combine them to 3* instead. A 1*++ with RS would have a stat between natural 4* and 5*, and a 2*++ with RS would be comparable to 5*. Focus on getting a "set" of items for each world (like, for each world get 5 weapons and 5 armors that you think your characters can use). You can farm some 2* items but for now just focus on storyline.

  3. For abilities, you would want to get some elemental damage (e.g. fira or fire sword), cura, and double cut. Hone them to level 2 or 3. Then you would want to get some abilities: retaliate, armor/magic/mental/attack break. If you don't know what to make, consider making 1 of each (at least for the 1 and 2 * abilities), since creating them is not very expensive, but honing is. So only hone what you feel useful. Summon spells are not worth crafting for now.

  4. If you just started yesterday, focus on the storyline. This will give you mythrils (do a 11-rare pull when you have 50!), stamina shard (currently max stamina is 78 or something). Since you'd get a free energy refill when you get max stamina+, you will be able to do a no-waiting rush of normal dungeons for a long time. This will probably give your main party a lot of experience to level to like 20, then you can consider doing an event.

Do the event/weekly dungeons so that you don't waste stamina. For example, if you're on 35/40 stamina with 4 shards, and you know the next story dungeon costs only 21 stamina, you can consider doing an event dungeon or weekly dungeon to spend that 14 stamina, then do the story dungeon, so that you can get a free refill immediately afterwards. Notice that the first-time bonus for weekly/event dungeons also give mythril, so it's worthwhile to clear them at least once.

The suggested level for current weekly dungeons and events are: Weekly(easy): no level requirement, but the rewards are very low. Clear it once and be done with it. Weekly(medium): suggested level is about 25 depending on your equipment. The rewards for medium level is only for low-level parties, so only do it once or twice, get what you want and run. Weekly(hard): suggested level 40+. The orb once are extremely useful, as you'll need a lot of orbs to hone abilities. Exp ones are good, but not so good compared to the current Celes event. Gil dungeon is worth running once or twice and you won't be out of gil for a long time. Do weapon/armor only when necessary as they eat your inventory space. Celes event(easy): do it once and be done with it. Celes event(medium): you want to get to level 20 to run it once. Celes event(hard): best with a party of about level 45 with VI synergy items to stride through. However, if you have a party of about 20 you can get exp by flan farming (check megathread for flan farming). Level up really quick.

Don't panic. There's a lot of guide for this game, and you'd be able to ramp up quickly. This is a very good time to enter the game, since the current event give you huge exp bonus.

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AngusTamOP•

Is the event to get Terra over already? Cuz I only see the Celes event.

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HopelessemoRinoa•

Yes, but it will repeat eventually. Rydia is just as useful but has less HP

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IceBlue•

I just started the game a few days ago myself and the advice in this thread has been helpful already. A lot of it I figured out on my own but there was a ton I didn't think about. Anyway, one thing that I noticed that no one has brought up is making full use of stamina level ups which refill your stamina. Some people say go through the story first which is good for exp and rewards but I think it's best to mix events with story so you don't waste stamina. Early on, I feel like I'm playing catch up so getting extra stamina can help speed things up since the real limiting factor in this game is time.

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AngusTamOP•

What team have you been using and what kind of ability/equipment do you use?

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IceBlue•

My "main" team right now is Terra, Tyro, Cyan, Celes, and Cloud. They are all in the 28-32 level range right now. I also have Kain at 28 and Rydia at 17ish and Black Mage at 24 and White Mage at 17.

As for abilities, mostly heals, spellblades, and a few Black Mage spells. Also some Sword Bash and Double Cut on some of the party members who can't do the other stuff.

As for equipment, I've gotten pretty lucky on drops, I think. I got a 4 star Diamond Sword and that 5 star robe that was featured in the Terra event relic page. I have a ton of FFVI gear so it's pretty awesome for doing all the FFVI content and for leveling up Cyan, Celes, and Terra.

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AngusTamOP•

What are the roles of each of your characters? I'm probably gonna be using Cloud, Kain, Wakka, Celes, and Rydia once I get Celes at the end of today. Celes would be white mage and Rydia would be the black mage. I'm not sure what the other 3 are supposed to do rather than stand in the front and attack.

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IceBlue•

Celes is not a good dedicated White Mage. The most common party make up I've seen is 3 physical attackers, 1 BM/summoner, 1 healer/support. My set up is a bit different.

Cloud is focused on spellblade and maxing out attack. On average because I give him most of the best gear I have, his damage is the highest even when other characters are getting Realm Synergies and he's getting none.

Celes is also a spell blade for me. Her magic stat is high and her mind stat is also pretty good but she doesn't really have access to the better black and white magic since she only has WM2 and BM2. So you're limited to Cura, Blizzara, Thundara, and Fira. At lower levels she might be decent for that purpose. I often give her some heals but she's not geared out for dedicated healing. It's better for my party to have her on offense and do some support healing when needed. The problem with white mages is generally gear focuses on attack or mind rather than both. Celes doesn't even get access to staves which are the best way to raise your mind stat. So at that point you might as well use the White Mage or Tyro for that role since they can use gear to get their mind stats way higher plus have access to high tier white magic. The main reason why Celes is better on the front line as an attacker in my mind is she can use Swords which are generally the best weapon type for high damage from what I've seen.

Rydia is a solid black mage. Her magic stat is super high. She also has a higher base mind stat than Celes so she technically could fill that roll just as well as her. But she also can't use staves so that kinda hurts that.

I've used Kain a bit but I don't have any Dragoon skills or any decent spears so he's basically the same as Cyan to me. The main differences are Cyan can use Retaliate but he can't wear heavy armor. Plus realm synergies. Cyan could get better if I got a katana, though.

I've not used Wakka so I don't really know what he's good for. One character I think is worth looking at is Josef (high attack stat and can use hammers and fist weapons). For me, he basically fills the same role as Cyan and Kain since I don't have their class abilities other than Retaliate nor a decent weapon for their main type. They basically all share the same Dagger when I switch them out for each other and share the same abilities. I mainly switch between them for Realm Synergies (for the bonus XP). But currently Cyan has an edge in stats mainly due to so much FFVI content I've been playing lately giving him the xp boost.

I think you should consider using Tyro more. He might not be that powerful but he's so versatile and fills any role you need him as well as allowing interesting ability combinations. He's basically the best White Mage you get until you get one from an event.

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Necrofamicom•

I'm going to be a contrarian here and say I wouldn't focus too much on getting Celes. You'll probably have another opportunity down the line, and she's not super great overall. I'd worry more about getting some levels and gear, clearing story dungeons and getting ready for the next event to get Lenna. You'll want her, because while you can get Rydia early on to be your black mage for the time being, there's no good white mage options among the story dungeon characters right now.

As for which characters you should use, you'll want to level everyone eventually, but early on Cloud and Rydia are good, along with someone who can be a white mage (I used White Mage but a lot of people here liked Tyro) and two more damage dealers, preferably one with access to support skills. Wakka and Kain or Josef are good basic choices, but you could use other characters if you wanted.

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AngusTamOP•

I'm just spamming that Flan exp right now so I'll probably get Celes by the end of today off that 60 memories / 15 stamina. I'm currently using Cloud, Kain, Wakka, Tyro, and Rydia. With Tyro as my white mage, he should be switched out for Celes right? I'm not quite sure what Wakka's role is, I've just been using boost and attack with him.

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Necrofamicom•

Celes isn't a white mage, she's a spellblade user like Cloud. And she's kind of middling, Cloud is better. Wakka is basically a support guy, he can use physical debuffs like poison attack and silence buster, which you need for some boss fights. Having him use boost on Cloud is a pretty good general strategy with him.

Lenna can replace Tyro as a white mage when she comes out, which will probably be in the next few days.

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AngusTamOP•

Once Lenna comes out, what should be the optimal team? For melees, I think my choices are Cloud, Kain, Wakka, and Celes. White mage and black mage would be Lenna and Rydia, respectively.

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Necrofamicom•

If it were me, I'd use Cloud, Kain, Wakka, Rydia and Lenna.

You should get Josef soon from a story dungeon, I might use him instead of Kain. It would depend on what gear I had, although Kain is still a solid choice because there's so many FFIV dungeons, comparatively.

If you decide to stick with Kain, make Jump. There's actually a boss battle later on that has using it as a mastery condition, so it's not a bad idea to stick with him for now.

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jechhhBringing sexy back•

Whatever you do use google survey money to buy relic pulls (FREE)

pay attention to your stamina crystals. if you go afk for a while and have full stamina at the last stage of a level then redo the other stages till you run out.

cloud is op

dont make summons yet because there will be quests that give mythril if you make em

Rydia is good early game but falls later

supports save you (not white mages) they can blind, power break, magic break, armor break.

if you die you can turn off your game and you're alive when you restart it. unless you went on the next stage.

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