Seeking upgrade advice, less than full build.

Hello BuildAPCForMe! I hope this is the right place to ask this question, as it isn't a full build I am looking for, but rather areas I can improve my current machine. I'll fill out the questionnaire and throw in my current specs further down:

What will you be doing with this PC? Be as specific as possible, and include specific games or programs you will be using.

This is my primary home machine that I use to surf the net and play games on. It's hard to be specific with regards to games, since I try to play all of the major AAA releases as they come out. Looking forward to Witcher 3 on May 19th! I'm a casual gamer and I'm not fussy about being on the absolute bleeding edge, but I do enjoy playing games on the higher settings at the native resolution of my monitor (1920x1080).

What is your maximum budget before rebates/shipping/taxes?

Not really applicable. Looking for best bang for buck, and don't really have a set ceiling for budget. I would like recommendations to be based on actual performance increases, if those gains are worth spending money to achieve.

When do you plan on building/buying the PC? Note: beyond a week or two from today means any build you receive will be out of date when you want to buy.

Immediate, if suggested.

What, exactly, do you need included in the budget? (Tower/OS/monitor/keyboard/mouse/etc)

This is where the unique nature of my request swims against the current. There is nothing that I need, as I have a machine that is doing its job reasonably well.

Which country (and state/province) will you be purchasing the parts in? If you're in US, do you have access to a Microcenter location?

Ontario, Canada. I have a preference for NewEgg.ca but will follow the deals, provided shipping doesn't outweigh savings (of course).

If reusing any parts (including monitor(s)/keyboard/mouse/etc), what parts will you be reusing? Brands and models are appreciated.

Anything that isn't upgraded. :)

Will you be overclocking? If yes, are you interested in overclocking right away, or down the line? CPU and/or GPU?

I have never overclocked anything.

Are there any specific features or items you want/need in the build? (ex: SSD, large amount of storage or a RAID setup, CUDA or OpenCL support, etc)

No, but feel free to offer suggestions.

Do you have any specific case preferences (Size like ITX/microATX/mid-tower/full-tower, styles, colors, window or not, LED lighting, etc), or a particular color theme preference for the components?

I would like to retain my current case.

Do you need a copy of Windows 7 or 8.1 included in the budget? If you do need one included, do you have a preference for one or the other?

I am currently running a legitimate copy of 8.1.

Extra info or particulars:

Alright, so here's the real meat of the post! My current specs:

Case: Antec "ELEVEN HUNDRED"

Power Supply: Corsair HX750

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H

CPU: Intel i5 3570K @ 3.5GHz

GPU: GTX 770

RAM: 16gb DDR3

Storage: Samsung 840? SSD (128gb), 3x WD 750gb HDD

Monitor: 2x Samsung SyncMaster S27B350 (27" LED)

So, what can I upgrade that will result in practical performance increases that will allow me to extend the useful life of the machine? I know I could upgrade the CPU and GPU, but to which? Which would offer the best balance of cost vs performance?

Thanks!

Posted May 17, 2015, 12:20 AM UTC · edited

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Kyle_Pq•

Hello, SevenTwoThree!

Your setup is already very good. The only major change I'd perform is to change the video card to a GTX 970, which comes with a free The Witcher 3 key:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

TypeItemPrice
Video CardAsus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card$329.99 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total$329.99
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-16 20:46 EDT-0400

This will grant you an extra ~40% performance boost as well.

 
Hope it helps! =)
Feel free to ask anything.

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LGEE__•

This is hard, as your current setup is very good. You could possible try SLI with another 770, but while the fps increase would be visible, the second card only increases the performance by ~80% of the first card, so it isn't exactly price to performance.

I would wait a while until those parts can no longer do 60fps on medium @ 1080p, and the parts are outdated, instead of upping it to the next generation overtime it comes out if you want price/performance.

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halberdierbowman•

Graphics Cards - here's a list of graphics cards by their general performance rankings. My understanding is that the 970 is excellent bang for the buck, and should dominate any 1080p game, even current AAA games. That's what I would recommend for a new build to match your request of best price/performance. But your current card is only one step below this one, and it's not recommended to upgrade for only a couple steps on the chart. Are you capping out your current VRAM? For the same ~$300 price of a 970 you could get another 770, and it might give you more performance to SLI them (you can't SLI different GPUs I don't believe). That said, if you're only one step below the 970, then you might be getting more performance than you need right now for 1080p. I'm not sure if your monitors are only 60Hz - are you maxing out their FPS currently? SLI scaling can have some issues or at worst not work at all, but when it is well-implemented it typically almost doubles frame rates to add the second card (each additional card adds slightly less performance).

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

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SevenTwoThreeOP•

Thank you! No, I haven't been maxing out VRAM. I've had plenty of wiggle room.

My monitors are 60Hz.

I guess I will hold off on upgrading until it's time to build a new machine, maybe next year.

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halberdierbowman•

You're welcome! I actually didn't see the other responses, but I'm glad mine matched theirs haha!

Well it should be easy enough to test your current FPS, run something like Fraps and see if you're consistently getting 60fps. If you are, then even if your machine is more powerful, you wouldn't see it strictly speaking in the game.

Considering how solid your rig is, if you had some budget you'd like to spend, maybe some peripherals would enhance your experience? Headphones, mechanical keyboard, mouse, chair, desk? Or, a 1440p/4k center monitor?

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SevenTwoThreeOP•

Can my rig support 4k gaming, though? I like the idea of the centre monitor - I've been drooling over peoples' triple monitor setups for a while now...

With regards to peripherals, I'm rather spoiled.

I don't believe my machine hits a consistent 60fps on new AAA games at max settings anymore. More like 30-40fps. Still playable, but I'm finding that I am turning down shadows and such to push the framerates back up.

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halberdierbowman•

You really need a lot of power to game at 4k, so if you're currently at 30-40fps then 4k is probably too much for your current setup - depending on the game and the player, what's considered playable can vary.

Here's nvidia's specs for how a gtx 770 runs some games at 2560x1600 (I'm not sure why they picked that resolution) are you playing any of these? Your numbers should be much better since 1080p v 1600p http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-770/performance

I forgot to ask, does your CPU utilization max out when you're gaming, specifically even a single core? If it does, then a CPU upgrade might help.

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