Progress & Delays

Update 2015-08-16: Fulfilment & shipping times has moved to http://www.jackalent.com/pages/fulfilment-times - hopefully this should help those that are wondering "How long until my order ships?", and "When it ships, when will it arrive?".

Update 2015-08-03: There was a mixup with chia-seeds (I think I ordered and then they went home early for the long weekend). Jackalent Fit is pretty much a go (it's tasty (to me) and green).

Update 2015-07-12: Technically there is facebook now for social media. You can leave a message here, there, twitter, or [email protected] and I'll see it.

Update 2015-07-07: Over the week, it has come to my attention that sugar isn't listed in the ingredients list. More than that there's no disclaimer for children, pregnant or breastfeeding women. Even now the values are not %DV as listed by health Canada (but instead based off of the US Goverments DRI with Adjusted Macronutrient Ratios). Cholesterol was listed at 0 when it just wasn't recorded. Things have been on standby in terms of shipments but now with the new nutrition facts being more clear, more are going out tomorrow and onwards.

Update 2015-06-24: Stabbed hand. Hospital. Yay

Update 2015-06-20: Now accepting e-transfer as payment option. Increased prices to better reflect costs - but offer a larger discount for recurring orders. ALL discounts should be imported.

Update 2015-05-25: Placing a percentage of completed orders (rounded to nearest whole number) to give an idea of where everything is at.

Update 2015-05-24: Things are back on track. Every order will be getting a bonus bag for the delays. http://i.imgur.com/nRieQ8Z.jpg

Nothing has shipped yet, but it's getting closer. It's always been my intention that most profit made would go back into Jackalent, which would allow me to gradually implement some really nice things. However, this has been a bad kickoff week.

  1. The oats used are from quick oats, which require milling before hand to make a fine drinkable flour. Quick oats were chosen because of them being easier to digest and dissolve. The mill used has a duty of roughly 75% - it's not an industrial mill, but things were going steady up to about Friday night. No real sleep there as I worked to get it back into working order. Success was had, and I finished milling enough for the pre-orders. There's another on the way.

  2. Saturday the 16th. Same thing happened to the Ninja (a blender), which I've been happily using to grind Chia seeds. Now, there's another on the way, and I'm processing with a coffee grinder.

Both of these things have slowed down production quite a bit, there's new processes and also Very important regulations to follow. I'm not going to lie, when I'm making batches just for myself I'm not nearly as strict.

Right now this is very much a home operation, but I'm looking at warehouses to house industrial equipment with longer duty cycles.

Posted May 17, 2015, 7:56 PM UTC · edited

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seanbrockest•

You have our support. Keep us up to date and you shall have our patience.

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rmarchildon•

Woo woo tracking number!! I'm irrationally excited! lol

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sent4496•

It is so inspiring to see your excellent work ethic at work here, I will be more than patient with someone as transparent and motivated as you. I can't wait to get my order!!

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zutroyCanadian•

Glad things are back on track! The extra bag is very nice of you!! Is each bag 1 day worth?

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JackalystOPCanadian•

Sorry, yes! They are each 1 day worth.

The product in the bags are kind of compressed and I'm a bit concerned about the mix-ability of such (after compression it seems to clump more when mixing). The other issue is that it's hard to scoop out into portions. The next bags ordered will be bigger.

Your order should be on its way :)

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zutroyCanadian•

Sweet - got the tracking number! Very exciting!!

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zutroyCanadian•

Delivery estimate is June 8th. Ahhh, only another week to wait.

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JackalystOPCanadian•

Waits are aggravating, but I try to be thankful to be in a time when "slow" deliveries is 2 weeks. Just ~100 years ago wasn't travel done by train & horse, and that's quite a bit slower. Assuming an amazing 30 miles per day, it would take roughly 70 days if no train was used. Go back another 50 years and you'd be ordering the same way (no phones).

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zutroyCanadian•

Damn, that's a disappointment. I've learned patience over the years of following official Soylent, so I'm not too worried about a short delay. Shit happens.

Get some sleep, and please keep up with the updates.

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rmarchildon•

Thanks for the updates and transparency. It's much appreciated!

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JadelyJadeCanadian•

Thanks for updating us on everything that's happening as you go. Very sad to hear about the delays as I've been waiting over a year for Soylent to come to Canada, but hopefully you can get up to speed soon. Keep up the good work, and I really look forward to trying Jackalent!

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MrVenture•

I appreciate the updates and I am very excited to try your product :)

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JadelyJadeCanadian•

Are you going to ship as you complete orders, or only ship once they're all done?

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piesicleCanadian•

I just got a shipping notice, so it seems like he's shipping as orders are completed.

Can't wait for it to arrive!

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zutroyCanadian•

Damn, I should have jumped in sooner! I'm jealous.

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JackalystOPCanadian•

I'm shipping them as I complete the orders. Yours should be soon. Very soon.

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sent4496•

Also, do you have any vague timeframe for when you might be able to make your recipe gluten-free for those with a gluten intolerance? I can't wait to start buying jackalent, but this is the sole roadblock for me before I can start doing that.

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JackalystOPCanadian•

Lets pretend that people like Jackalent, (or - can get it down).

February of 2016, or, 2016.02 for those with gluten sensitivity, and 2016.06 for Intolerance. I think before I was giving an earlier timeframe but that doesn't seem reasonable at this point in time. It will ultimately require a different facility with more equipment, and more control over ingredients. In terms of gluten, 2015.10 will likely mark the elimination of the multivitamin, and acquiring different sources so that the only things containing gluten or gluten traces should be wheat and oats. Then the big change would be 2016.02, with a manufacture of gluten free made in a facility that also processes gluten products. If things hold well, there would be a separate facility in the Summer of 2016 purely for gluten free processing.

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seanbrockest•

So how many days have you shipped? have you kept track? I think it would be cool for your own sanity to keep a running tally of all the days of food you've shipped. Imagine the day when you've shipped your 10,000'th day of food.

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JackalystOPCanadian•

Well... not as many as people might think, though it's been roughly 21 days per day for 1.5 months now - so... 945 ordered... about 400 shipped? Nearing the end of this month other projects will die down (and I'm not really taking on anything new, so that's going to help quite a bit). I can tally it though and do a sort of McDonalds thing.

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seanbrockest•

Well I picked up mine today so tomorrow both the wife and I will be starting it. If all goes well I'll be ordering another 60 days soon.

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JackalystOPCanadian•

Nice!

Though only about 4% go 100% on a powdered food. I think if I weren't selling this, I'd probably replace every breakfast and lunch and 3 dinners a week (instead of 6). Steak and social meals are just too good to pass up.

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CdmbrCanadian•

Ouch, sorry to hear about the hand. Hope it isn't too serious.

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JackalystOPCanadian•

No no. Not really.

I think I may of made it sound more serious than it is. Two stitches in the palm of my hand... fingers still luckily functional doc says (though I can only pinch lightly now because it hurts outside of an OK grip... BUT I CAN PINCH - which I've read is important).

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JadelyJadeCanadian•

Out of curiosity, how many weeks of Jackalent total have been sold as pre-orders?

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JamboPBCanadian•

Any updates? Website is down.

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JackalystOPCanadian•

Yes there are, I'll update that shortly.

As for the website. Thanks for letting me know. I've been with shopify for the last month, so I killed the non-shopify one (which happened to have a redirect from jackalent.com to www.jackalent.com). Redirect should work now.

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DigitalN•

Just curious, if I placed an order on the 26th of last month would I be looking at receiving it in the next 1-2 weeks? Now that I am on the soylent train it would be tough to go a little while without anything so I'm curious if I will need to buy the actual Soylent brand for a quick fix until this arrives.

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JackalystOPCanadian•

Just checked out where the 26th is on the timeline. If yours doesn't make it out by tomorrow it will be going out on Friday so there shouldn't be a need for a quick fix.

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DigitalN•

Right on, thanks for the quick response! Looking forward to trying it out and hopefully picking up more in the future.

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JackalystOPCanadian•

Really hope you enjoy it!

I think if you're okay with puréed oatmeal (most adequate description I've found), it'll be wonderful.

The future should see fulfilment times greatly reduced and more recipes as well.

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DigitalN•

I've tried the regular soylent 1.5 so far and it's not bad when blended with a banana, although my laziness would really appreciate if I could get used to the flavor without one... We'll see what happens. With the Soylent I really find it tastes like raw pancake batter and that really puts me off without any additive, so if this is any different I will probably like it much better.

Thanks again!

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