Sniper - Rifle and Reforging Tier List for PvP
This is a series on PvP Weapon-reforging. For more information for other gun types, see:
[Sniper Rifles] (http://www.reddit.com/r/CruciblePlaybook/comments/37fqub/snipers_reforging/) by u/Pwadigy
Shotguns by u/famousbirds
Fusion Rifles by u/famousbirds
Rocket Launchers by u/famousbirds
Machine Guns by u/Pwadigy
Pulse Rifles by u/famousbirds
Weapons
Formatting Provided by u/famousbirds.
Also, for a similar list for shotguns, you can check out
[This] (http://www.reddit.com/r/CruciblePlaybook/comments/37auty/house_of_wolves_shotgun_reforge_megathread/) shotgun reforging thread by u/famousbirds
| Name | Source | Aim Assist | Mag | Reserve | Rerollable | PvP Tier | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Low Grade Humility | HoW Crucible drop | 35 | 4 | 11-15 | X | 1 | |
| Her Benevolence | Queen | 40 | 4 | 11-14 | X | 1 | |
| Shadow of Veils | Variks | 54 | 4-5 | 14-18 | 1 | ||
| LDR | TDB Vendor | 49 | 4 | 14-17 | 1 | ||
| Longbow Synthesis | TDB Vendor | 53 | 5 | 8-17 | 1 | Needs Field Scout | |
| Eye of Sol | Brother Vance | 41 | 5 | 14-18 | 2 | ||
| The Chosen | FWC | 23 | 4 | 11-14 | X | 2 | |
| Amplified Geo-D6 | Vanguard | 30 | 4 | 11-15 | X | 3 | |
| Violator | New Monachy | 27 | 4 | 11-14 | X | 3 | |
| Praedyth's Revenge | Vault of Glass | 20 | 4 | 14-18 | 3 | 20 with Field Scout | |
| Subtle Nudge DN7 | Crucible Vendor | X | Bad | ||||
| 20/20 AMR7 | X | Worse |
Scopes
| Name | Zoom | Aim Assist | PvP Tier |
|---|---|---|---|
| Shortgaze | 4.5x | +15-20 | 1 |
| Longview SLR10 | 5x | +30 | 1 |
| Sightsys | 8x | +35 | 1 |
| Ambush | 4.5x | -10 | 1 |
| TacSyS | 6x | +15 | 2 |
| Hawkeye | 6x | +20 | 2 |
| Longview SLR20 | 7x | 2 | |
| EagleEye | 9x | 3 |
Perk 1
| Name | Text | PvP Tier | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Hidden Hand | This weapon gains better target acquisition | 1 | Pick this! |
| Clown Cartridge | Reloading this weapon has a chance to grant a larger than normal magazine | 2 | |
| Rodeo | Reduces the severity of this weapon's recoil | 2 | |
| Triple Tap | Rapidly landing precision hits will return one round to the magazine | 3 | |
| Outlaw | Precision kills with this weapon dramatically increase reload speed | 3 | |
| Spray and Play | Increases the reload speed of this weapon when its mag is empty | 3 | |
| Mulligan | Missing a shot has a chance to return ammo directly to the magazine | 3 |
Perk 2
| Name | Text | PvP Tier | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Injection Mold | Increased stability, faster handling, reduced range | 1 | |
| Quickdraw | This weapon can be drawn unbelievably fast | 1 | Increases draw speed and ADS |
| Snapshot | Aiming this weapon is incredibly fast | 1 | |
| Hand-laid Stock | Increased stability, reduced range | 2 | |
| Lightweight | When held, this weapon grants +2 character Agility | 2 | |
| Casket Mag | Increased magazine size, reduced stability | 3 | |
| Armor Piercing Rounds | These iridium-core rounds overpenetrate targets. Their mass slows down weapon handling | 3 | |
| Skip Rounds | Ceramic-jacketed rounds ricochet on hard surfaces. More rounds in reserve, slower handling | 3 | |
| Speed Reload | Reload this weapon quickly | 3 | |
| Flared Magwell | Reload this weapon even faster | 3 | |
| High Caliber Rounds | Oversize rounds built to stagger targets. Their mass makes a weapon harder to handle | 3 | |
| Custom Optics | Precision glass for better zoom | 3 | |
| Single Point Sling | Switch weapons faster. Move quicker while aiming | 3 | |
| Rifled Barrel | Increased range, slower reload | 3 | |
| Reinforced Barrel | Increased range, reduced stability | 3 |
Perk 3
| Name | Text | PvP Tier | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Unflinching | It's easier to aim under fire using this weapon | 1 | Pick this! |
| Performance Bonus | Kills with this weapon have the chance to grant bonus reserve ammo | 1 | |
| Replenish | This weapon's magazine will be refilled whenever a Super is cast | 2 | |
| Grenadier | Kills with this weapon reduce the cooldown of your grenade | 3 | |
| Surplus | Expect to find more ammo for this weapon | 3 | No effect in PvP |
| Shoot To Loot | Shooting any type of ammo picks it up | 3 | No practical effect in PvP |
#Reasoning
Most of the good snipers aren't even re-rollable. Low-grade gets the top pick for being re-rollable, having highest AA, decent two-hit kill, consistent two-hit kill, enough ammo to go +5 per box with a special/sniper-ammo boosting armor-piece.
Shadow of veils gets second pick, because it has high AA, can revive snipe. Unfortunately, its right perk doesn't affect PvP, and it's left perk is mediocre, but it has access to perfect balance and extended mag, along with a decent inventory size
Eye of Sol has pretty good perks on it, a large inventory size, and a fast two-hit bodyshot kill. You'll like this if you prefer double-tapping bodyshots. But it also does headshots well, with its really nice AA.
I didn't include prudence, because it's impossible to put up prudence without a re-rollable version, or a vendor version. However, if you get rolls that are at least as good as Eye of Sol (Field scout and a decent scope alone will do it), then it'd be just above Eye of Sol
Also, I didn't include efrideet's, as Final Rounds snipers really don't work anything like regular snipers. And any other Efrideet's is bad, unless you're trying to generate ammo at start of match (in which case, double-down and field scout)
Hidden Hand is amazing because it simply increases the size of your enemy's hit-boxes, making longer and faster swipes possible at a variety of ranges.
Unflinching tightens flinch spread from bullets. It works extremely well with hidden-hand, as having it will reduce the probability of being flinched out of a hitbox while taking fire. It also makes the scope reset fast enough to be on target between Thorn shots.
Injection Mold, Quickdraw and Snapshot all increase ADS speed, but do it differently. Quickdraw adds +100 Handling, which is a massive increase in draw-speed and ADS time (but doesn't stack with Blade-dancer's Quickdraw perk). Snapshot puts the sniper at a set ADS speed regardless of scope (so it's good with scopes that offer no ADS speed). Injection mold stacks with everything, and offers stability as well.
You want ADS speed, because this makes close-quarter sniping possible. It also reduces the chance of an enemy getting a first-shot that will flinch you off target. +MLG quick-scoping. Kidding. But, seriously. Quicker scoping means it'll be easier to visualize where your scope will land, giving you much more time to make a swipe.
#Aim-Assist Modifiers on Sniper Scopes.
I finally, fee-fi-fiddley-fucking did it! I found the aim-assist values on most of the sniper scopes. I did this by comparing the API's Minimum and Maximum values for Aim-assist across the raid/PoE/Trials snipers (which have concrete scope-values, I also observed that the "base" values of these guns were derived from using the first scope in the perk tree). Using a couple tables, and some substitution/subtraction, I quickly found the following (I used ambush as a base). These are only approximations, because the data didn't fit in a couple of scenarios, but you can take these as fairly-accurate, relative values:
- Ambush + 0
- TacSyS + 25
- ShortGaze + 25-30
- Hawkeye + 30-35
- Longview SLR10 +35-40
- SightSyS + 40
NOTE: These are not the values you add to the base-AA to find total AA.
NOTE: Randomly re-rollable Snipers seem to use a base that is +10 over ambush. This means that aim-assist values in the various databases are vastly skewed in favor of Raid Weapons with high AA scopes (because the base-values would be listed under the high-AA scope). Above, I've reflected this by subtracting 10 from all of these values.
Also, apparently its logically impossible for the "Superb" and "enhanced" and "improved" values of TA to mean anything, unless TA is something entirely different from AA, which it may as well be.
Unsolvable:
- Eagleye
- Longview SLR20
-Pwadigy
Posted May 27, 2015, 2:37 PM UTC · edited