Radical Feminists disrupt CAFE Ottawa inaugural meeting
Posted Jun 6, 2015, 12:13 PM UTC
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Remember, the only way to fight inequality is MORE INEQUALITY!
But seriously this is very distressing to see. We need to have a conversation about issues affecting men and boys in this country and to have it shouted down by close-minded people is really depressing.
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It'd be one thing if they engaged the organization in some sort of conversation, but just making noise for the sake of it accomplishes nothing.
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Feminists especially those in Canada (where they been most active in fighting MRA's), refuse to take part in conversation. There's been zero attempts on their part to take part in conversation. Were has some MRA's have tried to.
But your right this doesn't accomplishes anything other than continue to make feminists look bad and people not want to side with them. Sure its only 3 of them, but its 3 feminists that are representing feminism in their actions.
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It accomplishes being the center of attention.
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I didn't even know cafe was doing anything like this recently so thank you feminidiots, I would not have known about this.
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Exactly, total Streisand effect. If this was just a staid civic center meeting then no one outside of that little room would've learned about this groups existence and their mission, but now thanks to the antics of these petulant feminists, this group's message will now be heard by thousands of people.
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What really irks me is the contrast. The guy speaking before was really calm and spoke in a totally reasonable, unbiased way. He brought up some great points about how men are not included in gender equality discussions while at the same time never blaming or trying to make the issues of women lesser. This is exactly what Mens Rights Activism is about. Meanwhile the so called 'feminists' come in and just try to make noise and mess up a peaceful discussion.
It just can't even understand how they can consider themselves to be justified.
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And that same calm will somehow be spun by anti-MRA people as psychopathic, creepy, or otherwise negative.
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It just can't even understand how they can consider themselves to be justified.
Feminism tells them that they can be the absolute shittiest people in the world and that their actions are justified because they are "oppressed". In fact, feminism tells them that the shittier they are the better they are, because women have always been "silenced", therefore, any semblance of treating someone who disagrees with you like a human being is traitorous.
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I love how they interrupted the whole event then had a nerve to get angry at people for filming them. Its mind boggling how idiotic they were. How are you gunna make demands after you completely fucked up their event?
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Inb4 feminists posting the textbook definition of feminism.
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And then a custom definition of sexism.
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And then accusing those who don't follow that definition as "not true feminists."
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llow that definition as "not true feminists."
MISOGNYLIRIST
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"You believe in equality of the sexes? Then you're a feminist!!!" ...
No thanks.
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Which ones?
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Was removed from r/Videos under rule 1 - political. I haven't received an explanation when I reached out as to what criteria they used for that judgement at this time.
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what is CAFE Ottawa? I would think feminist would be all for equality. Why would they disrupt this meeting?
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It's about equality for men and men's issues in general. Apparently the logic is this.
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Wow they were really risking their own safety weren't they? Takes a lot of courage to sit down in a room and make a lot of noise so other people can't have their own meeting. Must have been very triggering to have people demonstrate their displeasure at being interrupted.
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These people like to think they're "revolutionary" when they act and even talk like stalinists and would probably engage in brutal violence if they could get away with it.
In case you're confused where these people are coming from, the humanities in universities are churning these people out and putting these kinds of ideas into young impressionable minds.
The ironic thing is that they are the establishment. They are "the man." And in the case of those who call themselves "anarchists" they still demand the government do everything for them.
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These people like to think they're "revolutionary" when they act and even talk like stalinists and would probably engage in brutal violence if they could get away with it.
Don't you mean acting like kids?
The ironic thing is that they are the establishment. They are "the man." And in the case of those who call themselves "anarchists" they still demand the government do everything for them.
It never stops to amaze me how this is always the case with anarchists. During the Occupy Wallstreet protesting, they somehow made bit of noise for themselves, and some well off guy (forgot his name) was going around actually talking to people. In one video he ends up talking to anarchists and they quickly go but but but once he points out reality to them on how things work. There is another video with a Russian guy who is old enough to remember the times under USSR and he gets into it with the anarchists who end up doing the same.
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It's about equality for everyone with an emphasis on men's issues.
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*It's about equality for everyone with an empathise on men's rights.
Well feminism demonstratively does not care about mens issues, so some movement has to.
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Well feminism demonstratively does not care about mens issues
Given I got banned from r/feminism for posting it there, I think that's pretty clear.
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I agree. I believe feminism is a female rights movement that can coexist with the men's rights movement. Both are valid and need a voice. I just wanted to point out that CAFE isn't a men's rights movement, it is for everyone.
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The only thing I heard someone call them was "annoying"
It'd so pathetic that they have to make up fake attacks to justify their actions. They must know themselves that it's ridiculous
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Wow, when I saw r/againstmensrights trying to get them banned from the Toronto pride parade I was kind of upset. Turns out its just kids having a hissy fit.
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Turns out its just kids having a hissy fit.
Which is why I feel bad that they got doxxed over this shit - they really are just kids who are going to be really really embarrassed about this in about 5 years.
That's what cults do to kids though. :(
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Or they'll double down on it when they have some sinecured position writing shitty op-eds for some clearly politically slanted media org as their predecessors did, or have become another useless fixture in academia that is not even on the level of theology.
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Reported that thread, of course the admins did nothing.
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Did you hit the report button or directly message the admins? The report button just messages the mods.
Is what they're doing even against reddit's rules?
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Message the admins. KIA evidently did something like that and reddit made a rule against it.
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This is great. The progression of feminism over the last two years has gone so beyond the mainstream, that incidents like this only serve to remind people, women in particular, that these "feminists" do NOT represent their views and are just petulant children.
Gotta love the girl sitting there in the sunglasses blowing on her noisemaker. I'm sure someday she will tell her grandsons she was instrumental in the civil rights struggle for women.
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Please stop calling these people "radical" They are feminists, plain and simple.
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There are plenty of feminists who aren't assholes. I guess I see it the way I see Christianity; plenty of Christians go about their daily lives hurting no one, but then you have the Pat Robertsons and such.
Honestly, a few changes in their past here and there, and any one of them could have been a Fox News asshole instead of a Jezebel asshole. Feminism is just their shield.
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There's an old conspiracy theory that says that feminism was created as a way to splinter the anti-war/civil rights movement.
I don't know if that's true, but if it is, I'd say it worked extremely well. This stuff is getting ridiculous.
I'm not a feminist or an MRA. I'm just some guy that thinks everyone should have the same rights across the board. No exceptions, no favouritism.
These people in this video, if that's what they call feminists nowadays, then it's a fairly sorry representation of their cult or whatever they are now.
Those people are just assholes. They're using the same technique that the US rightwing Republicans do when someone starts speaking out of line at their rallies. It's an absolutely disgusting form of censorship. You'd be better off releasing a bunch of pigs into the building instead of just acting like them. Idiots.
Why are new feminists fighting MRA's anyways? They should be on the same side, not opposing each other. That's confusing to me. Why is that?
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This is not a kazoo convention, assholes.
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Assholes.
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I thought this was a funny moment, had to take a screenshot http://i.imgur.com/798NG7X.jpg
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Woman here. Wish there was some word I could call myself to say I support women's issues without being funneled into the same group as these children.
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Meh, so fed up of both self-righteous sides of the argument. Idiots are gonna be idiots.
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I'm not sure what people like this think they're accomplishing. Do they see themselves as the man in Tiananmen Square stopping a parade of male oppression? It looks more like children having a temper tantrum while the adults wait them out before sending them to their room. Not sure how many minds they're changing with these tactics.
More than you think. But they are changing man's minds because when someone sees this, it's hard to be for feminism.
If feminism was anywhere near what they preach, they would be getting out and condemning those people. Distancing them from such actions. But since they don't, it's quite easy for someone not informed to think that all feminist are like that or at least the majority. And they wouldn't quite be wrong in fact.
Feminist need to either take a stand on those people or continue being seen as not about equality at all.
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