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r/TwinCities•
summerinside

Why do we have both /r/twincities and /r/minneapolis? (*Double-posted)

It seems like there are quite a few mods who preside over both, and the content seems interchangeable (or worse, double posted). It seems that if there was only one, we would have a larger number of readers and contributors, and probably a better critical mass to build a community around.

Are you someone who subscribes to one and not the other? Why? Why the schism?

edit: I mean this as an earnest question and point of discussion, not a decision to be voted on by upvotes and downvotes.

Posted Jun 15, 2015, 5:28 PM UTC · edited

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lettuce•

Minneapolis is for posts exclusive to things going on in the city; Twin Cities is for things of interest to the whole region. Sometimes they overlap. Who cares.

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summerinsideOP•

For me, I'd think it's an issue of community and involvement. If we split the subreddits for the City and metro area, we end up with two much-smaller subreddits, and a resulting weaker reddit community in each sub.

Look at metro areas by population, and starting smaller than MSP. Combo city/metro area subreddits gain a lot of members:

Conversely, metro areas that try to split the main city from the metro-area subreddit have much smaller membership. (You could look at r/miami and it's variants as well) Splitting up Minneapolis and the twin cities results in two subreddits with smaller memberships:

Why not try to combine these subs? Wouldn't it create a better community?

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tjeffer886-stt•

Define "better".

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summerinsideOP•

Assuming that the percentage of posting, commenting and voting remains the same, a larger number of subreddit members should equate to more posts, comments, and participation.

Wouldn't more = better? (honest question!)

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lettuce•

I prefer quality over quantity. If I'm not interested in Twin Cities at large and the Minneapolis sub goes away, I'm going to see a lot of noise and possibly unsubscribe.

The city is a different animal from the whole region of which it is just one piece.

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AinsiSoitJe•

FWIW I agree with you 100% and I actually made a post about this some time ago. I think it's unfortunate we have a fractured community; I think a combined sub would really be more than the sum of the two current subs. I personally don't post as often (both with submissions and comments) as I would if there were a combined sub because the redundancy annoys me.

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[deleted]•

This is a solution in search of a problem

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summerinsideOP•

Here's the problem: a system that favors posters looking for karma, while fragmenting and limiting discussions to within niche subs.

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[deleted]•

a system that favors posters looking for karma, while fragmenting and limiting discussions to within niche subs.

Sounds like you have a problem with Reddit.

Besides, things work fine now. So what if people get a few extra karma by cross posting things? You seem to be among the minority of people it bothers

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freqflyr•

Seems pretty simple to me... r/minneapolis is for content specific to Minneapolis, whereas r/twincities is a regional sub... just like r/sanfrancisco is specific to SFO, whereas r/bayarea is for the region.

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Mpls_Is_Rivendell•

First of all, the mods do very little here beyond probably just deleting spam bot posts. Second, things in r/Minneapolis should only pertain to that city imo. r/TwinCities covers St. Paul and the surrounding "metro area" instead. Bottom line = lazy mods.

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cassisback•

Well, I dont live in minneapolis. Or even in st. paul for that matter (West Saint paul is technically different then saint paul. Its also south of saint paul).

But I do live in "the twin cities". So here I am.

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KichigaiSouth 'burbs•

(West Saint paul is technically different then saint paul. Its also south of saint paul).

And so is South Saint Paul, which is south and east of Saint Paul. Love how they named these cities, eh?

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cassisback•

Well, we are on the west bank of the mississippi. So its not like we couldnt read compasses or anything.

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KichigaiSouth 'burbs•

Ha ha, yeah, at least West St. Paul isn't over by Woodbury or something. Just seems weird since WSP is more directly south of St. Paul than SSP.

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cassisback•

Your preaching to the choir haha

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MPLS_MN•

Why is it that every time someone complains about double-posting in these subreddits, they always double-post their complaints in both subreddits?

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summerinsideOP•

Great question - I think it's something about karma.

That's why I made a single, self post in r/twincities, and linked to it from r/minneapolis. (I wanted the discussion to all be in one place)

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Tuilere(suburban superheroine)•

As a karma play, your cross-post failed.

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RichardManuelEagan•

self-posts don't accrue karma.

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Tuilere(suburban superheroine)•

You see my point.

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worduphomefryDAMN, THATS A COLD ASS HONKY•

People that live in Minneapolis don't like leaving Minneapolis in real life and on the internet so they need that sub

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autobahn•

upvoted for truth.

"dae hate suburbs?"

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summerinsideOP•

(funny that you're the one getting downvoted) Have you ever brought this conversation up at a Mod level?

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worduphomefryDAMN, THATS A COLD ASS HONKY•

It gets talked about but the impression we get is it doesn't really matter. Merging Minneapolis with twincities wouldn't make much of a difference to the whole but would cause a lot of drama with the Minneapolis nut swingers. There's enough traffic on both that it's OK and easy to find stuff. It's a grey area when it comes to content because a lot of articles apply to both subreddits. Its weird but there's not a ton of overlap and when there is its usually someone blasting in both or all three

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dullyouth•

It's funny because he is a mod of r/minneapolis

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worduphomefryDAMN, THATS A COLD ASS HONKY•

Funny how that works

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dullyouth•

You should ban this scumbag. Causing too much of a ruckus and creating a divide within our redundant subs. He must learn we dont tolerate any viewpoints except the dominant viewpoint.

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mitchx3•

You should create a 3rd one called TCMPLS. Then the other 2 would disappear and the world would be less fractured. Or there would be 3 instead of 2, couldn't say.

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dullyouth•

why not an /r/minnesotaminneapolisstpaultwincities

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jamesdeee•

It's because people in Minneapolis prefer not to to get involved in Shelbyville's affairs.

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BigMorgan•

Damn Shelbyvillians! Hoot! Hoot hoot hoot hoot!

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rkoloeg•

We literally had this same discussion just a few weeks ago. It's like porn, if you don't like it, don't look at it - just subscribe to one of the subs and you won't have to see all those nasty double posts.

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Tom-ocil•

A similar thread?

2 weeks ago?

Literally?

I now understand your resentment.

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blueshine12•

Totally agree on this. We don't have enough traffic to warrant separate subreddits for Minneapolis and Twin Cities. It would be one thing if there were pages and pages of posts per day on either subreddit.

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oidoglr•

Because Minneapolis people think they're the only thing going on in the whole metro area.

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meatwhisper•

Well for many years it was believed that Minneapolis was the "fun" city and St Paul was where you went to work. I'm assuming there was a little of that generalization going on there when the subs were created. As St Paul becomes more active, there is less need for BOTH... but there will always be those who will need some convincing I think. :)

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summerinsideOP•

Unfortunately, r/stpaul is a very quiet place, and r/saintpaul isn't much better

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dullyouth•

you are seriously scum

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Dawnbreaka•

shhhhh, pick up your stick and beat the horse.

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