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CakeX

Signalum Crossbow? and, best crossbow possible?

I'm trying to create a Tinkers' Construct crossbow with the maximum damage possible as it seems it is the most powerful weapon in Tinkers' Construct. I don't really care too much about draw speed or durability. I have a fairly limitless budget if it matters. This is what my current plan is:

##Crossbow:

Crossbow Limb: Signalum (this provides best damage afaik)
Tough Binding: Paper (writeable and provides unused extra modifier)
Crossbow Body: Manyullyn (only affects durability, so manyullyn for most?)
Bowstring: Flamestring? not sure if Enchanted Fabric would be better because of the extra modifier, but I heard the draw speed and arrow speed that the flamestring provides is more worth it.

##Bolt:

Bolt Core: Enderium over what tool rod? (I heard enderium had the best damage)
Fletching: I heard feathers were the best?

Any tips/notes would be appreciated.

Posted Jun 16, 2015, 1:49 AM UTC

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DrullkusTSmelt Dev & Chisel Artist•

I posted this a while back. I play FTB Infinity.

  • Signalum has the fastest reload time and the highest shooting speed. Use this for your limb.

  • Tough binding impacts nothing on your crossbow. Paper tough binding at best for +1 modifier.

  • Thaumium for your crossbow body if you want +1 modifier. Or take Bedrockium or Awakened Draconium for its durability.

  • Heatscar Bowstring because it's the superior bowstring. Enchanted fabric is worse than regular string and heatscar string. Tbh There isn't a whole lot of modifiers you can put on the crossbow.

  • Bolts are made with Enderium poured onto Blue slime rod attached with Slime Leaf fletchings.

  • Add the moss to your bolts for a slowly regenerating stock of ammunition. You're going to need it since with this crossbow you can literally dump your stock of 308 bolts in less than 3 minutes. I've had it happen too many whilst raiding the Outerlands.

  • Personally I don't care for durability. Slap a EnderIO Basic Capacitor bank onto the crossbow to store 1 mRF on it.

One more thing, the drawing speed is hardcapped at 0.5 seconds even though Signalum can do 0.25 seconds. It's still 0.5 seconds. Save yourself redstone by not putting it on this crossbow. It's already fast enough.

If you follow this assembly, you should find yourself with a whopping 96.5 hearts of damage. This is a wither-two shot crossbow.

  • Shoot Wither once. This should take him to slightly less than 1/2 (150/300) of his health.
  • Wait for him to reach 150 and then shoot him again ASAP.
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GamerBeastInfinity•

great guide!

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DrullkusTSmelt Dev & Chisel Artist•

Also, Glassmaker plans to patch the Signalum Metal... Basically, build it while you still can.

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GamerBeastInfinity•

but even if I build it, wont the patch affect the bow then?

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TheBigKahoonerCustom Modpack•

I would imagine that the stats are only calculated when you make the tool. Having the tools constantly validate their stats would be odd and mostly unnecessary.

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Thaccus•

I don't understand how to make the limb out of signalum. I cant craft it in a part builder nor can I pour it into the limb cast. How is this made? (Dw20 pack problems?)

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DrullkusTSmelt Dev & Chisel Artist•

You need ExtraTiCon. It exists in FTB Infinity but I am not sure about DW20.

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CakeXOP•

Thanks for all the help.

Is there a need for the +1 that the Thaumium provides? It doesn't seem like you can modify the crossbow itself that much.

What's your reasoning for the Bolt design? Just curious.

I assume you can't put flux on the bolts..

Should I put an eio cap bank on the bow or a flux capacitator? I heard the ip tier that you can out on depends on the bows durability.

Thanks again.

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DrullkusTSmelt Dev & Chisel Artist•

I just like having those extra modifiers if I can use them without sacrificing the damage. This is why I use the paper tough binding and Thaumium body but not the Enchanted Fabric Bowstring.

The highest TE Capacitor you can put on this design is Redstone Capacitor which is 4k RF. The Basic EIO Capacitor Bank is 1mil RF. That's why I took the 1mil RF option.

Capacitors don't do anything to the tool's durability at all, they just "buffer" it. In theory, it's just a waste to put flux on the arrows. If you use the arrows sparingly they should regenerate faster than your usage. You can always put more than one moss.

I forget why I chose these bolts, I think it's because they have the lowest drop rate?

This crossbow is practically a railgun.

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VladTheImpal0r•

I want to make the Crossbow Body from Bedrockium

Bolts are made with Enderium poured onto Blue slime rod attached with Slime Leaf fletchings.

can you take pink slime for the rod too? since pink slime gives a 2,5 durability modifier instead of the 2,0 from blue. also, which one is better, the Slime Fletching, or the Slimeleaf Fletching?

Heatscar Bowstring because it's the superior bowstring.

with that you mean the fiery bowstring right?

how much damage does the finished crossbow do?

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DrullkusTSmelt Dev & Chisel Artist•

Pink Slime Rods were added to TCon after I made this post.

And yes. The Fiery bowstring.

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VladTheImpal0r•

thanks!

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alex_hawks•

First we need to know what pack/mods you are using, so we can know what we have available

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Shadewing00•

If you play on AS2, try this one

LINK

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Jason_AnaminusThaumic Witchery•

WAT?

Is it lumium that does that?

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Shadewing00•

Yes, but you can't use it for the tough binding, I made this in creative. Tough binding doesn't affect the damage though so you can use just about anything.

If you pair this with Bolts made from Enderium Rod, Enderium Tip and Slime Fetching, you can one-shot a Wither. Be aware, you can't currently refill the ammo of these bolts due to a bug with Enderium vs Endearing material, you have to use Moss to make it Auto-Repair.

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namiasdf•

The draw speed is important, because iirc minimum draw speed is like 0.25s. You can spam shots and achieve a higher dps.

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xilni•

What effect does bolt weight have? I was vaguely told it affected flight time and armor penetration?

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Shadewing00•

Bolt weight doesn't affect flight time directly, what it does is affect how long it takes for the Bolt to start dropping due to gravity.

If your Crossbow has a fast enough Bolt(Arrow) Speed the bolt will generally hit the target before it even starts to drop.

Also, the higher the weight the more armour penetration the Bolt has, i.e. if a bolt is heavy enough it could ignore armour entirely, in theory. No idea how heavy it would have to be though.

EDIT 2: Sorry, I keep forgetting bits. Bolt weight is also part of the damage calculation for the Crossbow. I don't know the exact details but damage is the result of Crossbow base damage, Bolt speed and Bolt weight.

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xilni•

So as far as weight, would a enderium tool rod covered in enderium be better then? What advantage does a blue slime tool rod offer?

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Shadewing00•

Slime is a low weight material so will fly further with a lower arrow speed than a heavier material. This is good if your crossbow is not a very high speed one.

I'm currently using a Illuminati Crossbow made with Lumium Corssbow Limb, Lumium Crossbow body, Fiery Bowstring, and an Obsidian Tough Binding. Combined with a Bolt made of Molten Enderium over an Endearing Tool Rod with Slime Fetching and you get the following:

Draw speed: 0.15s (hard capped at 0.5s)

Arrow Speed: 14.4

Accuracy: 96%

And

Attack damage of 111 hearts with no modifiers!!!!!

This is essentially a machine gun that can one-shot kill on a Wither, haven't tested it against a Gaia Guardian yet.

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