Hardly Any Women Regret Having an Abortion, a New Study Finds
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time.comPosted Jul 14, 2015, 1:34 PM UTC
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time.comMeanwhile, in r/prolife, the 2nd post of this link went full Godwin on comment one.
Hardly any SS officer regret killing Jews.
And reportedly, the mods in the r/science thread have their hands full weeding out all the whines about sample size and selection bias from people who think survey scientists never think about sample size and selection bias.
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I couldn't find your godwin comment or thread, (though I totally believe it to be in character with that sub) however I did find them bitching about the response rate being low. My first through: Gee, maybe if there weren't groups of sociopaths with signs with pictures of dead fetuses at every PP who's reason for being there is to shame women who are even thinking of having an abortion, maybe, just maybe, their response rate would be higher. Shit, these people even rent out office space and set up fake women's health clinics EXPLICITLY so they can shame these women. And then they wonder why people don't want to answer questions about their experience.
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Thankfully r/prolife only has ~4k subs.
I am r/prodeath lol.
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"Do yourself a favor and flush it out" -Frank Reynolds
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It wouldn't have been a problem for Frank if he used a monster condom for his magnum dong.
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question: why does this matter? there's no reason to feel bad about removing a tick, is there?
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For a woman, it's a very emotional issue. Women often get depressed just from having a miscarriage... it is certainly not like a tick. Regardless, the decision to terminate isn't taken lightly, and women who go through with it are usually doing it for significant reasons they aren't likely to change their minds about later.
Anyway, it matters due to the current climate of the religious-right creating anti-abortion propaganda and even fake abortion centers to give out completely false information.
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1: a miscarriage is not an abortion. one is unintentional, the other is intentional. 2: babies are parasites and if you want it gone, you shouldn't have to feel bad about doing so. (a tick is a parasite which drinks your blood and can make you sick, so yes the analogy thing is accurate) 3: yes, the decision is not usually one made lightly.
that said, why do i get the feeling that this study was done as a means of shaming people. like "YOU KILLED A BABIES YOU SHOULD THE BAD FEEL BUT YOU DON'T SO YOU BAD!" or something ludicrously simple minded.
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I think you missed the point. If they feel that way about a miscarriage, imagine an abortion. You feel like babies are parasites (and in a strictly biological sense you're kind of right, as the mother and baby basically fight over bodily resources)... but that's irrelevant to how the mother feels about it now isn't it? It's not really about how you or the religious right feel about it. It should be about the mother... and this particular story is showing that regardless of the right-wing propaganda saying otherwise, women overwhelmingly do not regret the decision even thought it is a difficult decision in many/most cases.
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i think you missed mine: why should they have to feel bad?
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Not an apt comparison at all. In fact I'd say it's insulting to women who have to make what can be an incredibly difficult choice.
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With some of your other responses I've read, it seems fairly obvious you're either a man or at least a woman whose never been pregnant. I'm the former, and I couldn't fathom the happiness and excitement my wife showed when we first found out we're pregnant. I was happy, to be sure, but my happiness couldn't match her elation.
At this point she was only a few weeks pregnant. Basically, I didn't understand this feeling until my daughter's birth, during which time an entire lifetime of happiness and sadness, elation and anger, pride and longing all were compressed in one single moment. To me, it was her birth, to my wife, it was the moment she found out.
Feeling this way from the very beginning, and deciding that going through with a pregnancy and having the baby is detrimental to both the child and the mother is an incredibly difficult decision to make. You might not be able to feel why it's such a big deal, but at least now you may be able to know why some people have such a hard time initially.
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So abortion turns out to be a tough decision that takes an emotional toll in the short term, but is usually accepted as the right decision in hindsight. Worries, but rarely regrets.
As an ex-religious person, I feel like I can relate.
Pretty much spot on. Anyone can see that in the short term, it's going to mess you up. But in the long run; no extra financial burden you can't handle, no lost time, no responsibility that seems too much etc. It allows women to actually get to the place they need to be later on in life for them to have a kid when they're ready and able to take care of it properly.
Of course I'm not looking down on women who don't have abortions.