What Is #GamerGate Currently Ruining: an overview of the hypocrisy of the whole Gawker thing
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whatisgamergatecurrentlyruining.barrl.netPosted Jul 18, 2015, 7:26 AM UTC
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whatisgamergatecurrentlyruining.barrl.netSo what u/pixeldirigible is saying is "The enemy of our enemy isn't necessarily our friend"?
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I said this in another thread but, Gamergate and Gawker (to me at least) have always had a Sauron vs. Saruman kind of relationship. They're both terrible and exist in a horrific symbiotic relationship of both trying to either control or destroy the other. I just don't get how some people don't understand how it's okay to dislike both of them.
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TIL what deadnaming is
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i stg the lgbt community is the fucking best at word coinage
im so fuckin proud of all the queer as fuck words that are out there right now
poly community comes in #2 for this tho ("polycule" "metamor")
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("polycule" "metamor")
I can't be the only one who noticed these sound like Pokémon.
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"Polycule" is just so fucking useful.
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When was the latter coined? Because they might've been beaten to the punch by a fantasy setting
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AFAIK, Metamor Keep/Metamor City doesn't use it as a term for a partner's other partners though
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I know, I'm just joking. :P
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They're arguing now that they don't care about the gay shaming, but about the etics of getting into a CEO's private life and printing blackmail.
Even then, I'm sure there wouldn't be a peep said if it was a GG outlet.
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I mean this sort of thing is actually SOP for Breitbart, so no, they don't care.
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am i the only person annoyed that a +4 vote post is considered "proof" of what KiA as a community feels? That piece of evidence does not support the conclusion.
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Their first target, Zoe Quinn, identifies as queer;
shouldn't you actually prove a causal link there (given the initial uproar concerned claims by an ex boyfriend?)
if the general argument works that shouldn't stop us from attacking shit evidence.
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bisexual is not a thing apparently
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why not use the principal of charity? Am i A: saying Zoe Quinn isn't bisexual because bisexuality doesn't exist and she at one point had a boyfriend? (makes no sense for my argument). or am I B: asking for a causal link between her identifying herself as queer and the choice of Zoe Quinn being the first target? Given that we first learned about her from an ex-boyfriend's rant i can't accept B without substantiation.
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[long fart]
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Because every time I think that GG might have a point, they'll quickly do something both unethical and disgusting to totally invalidate it.
Also GG is built around using embarrassing details for their own benefit. It's how it started, actually. GG and Gawker are both sides of the same coin: sick internet voyeurism and sensationalism.
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Kotaku is a subsidiary of Gawker Media. They are not the same thing. This would be like saying Jaguar Land Rover Automotive PLC is Tata Motors. #GamerGate has a beef with Kotaku, but Kotaku isn't the only company to write about GG, much less the only company to write about GG in a negative light. Kotaku catches the most heat, because of the name association, but it makes far more sense for GG to attack The Guardian than Gawker Media, as The Guardian has written far extensively in their condemnation of GG.
Gawker Media is low hanging fruit because it's always been a tabloid outlet. The hypocrisy is in the way GG has scrambled to the top of some "moral high ground" which just happens to be the top of a dung heap. GamerGate doesn't give a shit about exposing Gawker because of how immoral it is to get involved in the sex life of a private citizen; it was founded on obsessively involving itself in the sex life of a private citizen.
GamerGate bleating on about how horrible Gawker Media is makes about as much sense as Floyd Mayweather trying to tell everyone how terrible Ray McDonald is.
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I'm not into boxing (I prefer my rigged fighting to have some level of theatrics), but what did Ray McDonald do?
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He was arrested for domestic assault last year, but the charges were dropped, and then he signed with the Bears in a one year deal that was contingent on him staying out of trouble, and 62 days later, he assaulted a woman who was holding a baby.
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Oh. That's what he did.
Also, sorry for not knowing about the fact he plays handegg.
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What a valuable insightful comment. If only you'd left it on the article itself instead of here
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The presence of homophobic slurs in GG is hardly surprising, considering much of the movement originated in english speaking chans. At least back when I used to hang around there the usual pronoun for a user was either OP or fag. In that environment everyone is a fag/faggot/newfag(sometimes the n-word), independent of gender,sexual orientation or race. That terminology has to my knowledge been a permanent fixture also in dutch, german and finnish chans.
Is it a homophobic aspect of the movement? ask prominent GGer Milo.
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Milo is pretty homophobic himself.
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yeah seriously, pointing at him and being like "LOOK! WE AREN'T HOMOPHOBIC! WE HAVE A GAY" is so ridiculous. he's like the poster boy for self-hating gays.
no one who loves himself would do this to his hair
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Especially considering he wrote this.
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This is bullshit. Social justice people swear all the time. We just use less slurs.
I get anti-SJ types super mad at me regularly because their masculine egos are too fragile to handle a woman who swears and doesn't take shit.
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I've seen a lot of people use really creative swear words when they cut out slurs, since it forces them to, you know, actually think about what words they're using.
On the other hand chans just use the same handful of slurs like somehow it's the epitome of wit. It's kind of pathetic.
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Why did you reply to your own deleted comment?
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How about that. Dedication to the art of trolling.
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Aw, he didn't answer. And he deleted his reply to his now-undeleted comment.
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Hm....for a second I thought GG's and my line of thought (Gawker fucked up biiiiiig time) were at least close-ish. And now I see that KiA (of course) turns this into a perversion. I feel stupid now.
Just now?
Hm. In that case yes. Because for a second i thought gg's outrage were at least because of an actual issue. And now i have to see that yet again they just use it to either make up conspirys or to hijack the lgtb community. :/
(Edit: But Gawker can still go fuck itself.)