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Demetrium

Soul Break Gauge Charging

Discussion

Is there any comprehensive data on the mechanics of this? I couldn't find anything good via quick search.

  1. Does the amount of damage you do (via attack or ability/spell) impact the amount?

  2. Does the success or failure (miss, or hitting a retaliator) impact the amount?

  3. Does the amount of damage taken when getting hit impact the amount? (Hit by enemy, self, or ally).

Wondering since I beat up on my Tyro a bunch for Guado++ so he'd have Sentinel for Anima. Seems like a yes to all three, but I'm not certain or certain how big of an influence.

Posted Jul 24, 2015, 7:29 PM UTC

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Kevrlethttp://ffrk.kevrlet.net•

  1. No. It's entirely determined by your ability. Attack gives 50, most abilities give 55-65

  2. I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think you have to hit to get charge. I'll check when I get off work if nobody's confirmed before then.

  3. No, it doesn't. I don't remember the charge value you get for getting hit, but it's agnostic of actual damage received.

For the record, one SB bar = 500 charge.

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EnlirWhatever.•

Everything Kevrlet said is correct. In addition:

  • Misses don't grant SB points, you have to hit the target.

  • Being hit by an enemy (and not an ally) grants 50 points.

  • When being hit, multiple hits grants multiple points, but the same does not apply when you attack multiple times (in other words, Double Cut grants its points only once per ability use).

  • You get 50% more SB points every time you hit an elemental weakness.

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DemetriumOP•

Thanks to you and Kevrlet for the info. Any data on High Scorer? Assuming it's some sort of multiplier?

There's a thread about combining it with Wrath, while the in-game description says it only affects 'attack'.

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EnlirWhatever.•

I'm still trying to figure it out. It should theorically change the amount of SB points Attack grants from 50 to 65, but the interaction with Wrath is indeed pretty odd. It falls into the same category other Attack modifiers do (the one including Zealot, Blitz-Eye, etc). The way it's coded doesn't seem a multiplier, but rather a direct value replacement (one of its arguments is an exact 65). As a side note, Composure also follows the same pattern (with 35 instead), but I still haven't tested it for eventual interactions with Wrath yet.

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DemetriumOP•

Interesting. You mention above the distinction of being hit by an enemy for 50pts. Do you get any for self-hits or being hit by an ally?

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zz_Rikku when•

I know for sure you don't get any for self hits, and I'm 90% certain you don't get any for being hit by an ally.

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EnlirWhatever.•

You don't get points for being hit by an ally. Self-hits will also grant no points, at least for the "being hit" part, but you should still regularly get points for the action taken. TFMurphy made a good analysis about this in an old thread.

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Tuxr4cerShadow•

Also if you use retaliate, characters who attack retaliater don't charge gauge.

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PeskyPomeranianVKmF for Good Times!•

I wish it did. Hard to charge up white mage SB :(

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IceBlue•

Does Guard command charge SB gauge at all?

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