Tridon and Zenia nerfed (Accdg to Gumi)
Posted Aug 18, 2015, 10:54 AM UTC
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honestly if they nerf units just like that then there really isnt much point in spending xx amount in pulling that unit because it is so good when first released but a week or two later, they would nerf it into nothing or only marginally better than current batch.
This statement/strategy will hurt gumi's economy and future spending in some way. From my point of view, there won't be much point pulling during rate up for exclusive units at all if they are not noticably stronger than the current batch and be able to hold their own against future one or two batches
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there is a difference between holding their own and trashing even new batches. Tridon just trashes any tank unit when it comes to AOE damage (not to mention HP% attacks are done the the shield HP not units) Zenia on the other Hand Is now OP but when ES learning comes other units will catch up to her. Her damage is unreal and she has decent bulk. this unit was supposed to be a glass cannon
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And here im thinking zenia is supposed to be on par with ultor in terms of over all damage boosting. Ultor is tankier too, perhaps he needs a nerf also.
Tridon is op. Zenia on the other hand is done just right. She is more or less in the same league as Roa.
Reaction from this thread is obvious that if Gumi implement this. It will leads to the usual money spending customer such as myself turn away from spending money in this game due to the instability.
In another game that I play whenever there is changes, players get a full refund to purchase whatever else they want...Is there a possibility that Gumi do the same? Bear in mind that a lot of players spend great money for the privilege of great unit and here is Gumi, potentially taking it away.
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ultor's dmg doesn't come close to zenias XD but no ultor is fine where he is. Tridon's basic "OP" part IS the bug I mentioned (cast a shield of 3000 HP and take a 150% HP threshold and ull lose ONLY 4500 hp which means 1500 dmg over ur shield damage ignoring the fact your HP is well over 15000) fixing this bug balances tridon but is a HUGE nerf. Gumi could give everyone a summon ticket but ppl will complain we spend over 10 summons to get him. You can't satisfy everyone with this style of refund in such a game. Oh I spent money to buy a champion on league of legends but it got nerf'd next patch. Rito plz refund me... Again Zenia is at the high tier end of Excellent unit (just below OP) ultor is in a great spot Deimos is in the same spot as ultor but tridon is in his own league because of that flipping bug
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that's y they should leave it be. if you dont' like it, dont' use it. fucking simple. it's a single player game 99.99% of time.
earlier some1 complain about arena is boring and too easy because of the offend team attack first. and he suggest cost limit to sub 200 to force use 5* 6*. Well, you can always do that yourself without changing everyone else. it's your game.
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I find that normally Zenia increase hit count part of the extra skill to be pretty useless as I find myself spamming her bb majority of the time just to make sure I can mitigate all the time. What Zenia is really good at is Arena...probably best arena sub unit out there at the moment
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If this happens I am done spending on this game. Was going to put in a few hundred dollars more when glyph batch is out but if this happens I won't, since I spent a pretty penny already pulling for Tridon and Zenia.
I hope others do the same.
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If someone can confirm this through the data mine, that'll be great.
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Nothing's changed so far.
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Thanks, man! then wth are these Gumi people talking about. If this is some sort of a canned response then this needs changing.
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Nothing's changed so far.
maybe, soon? next update? Just like Hard On nerf?
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Pretty sure Deathmax would post it if it happened.
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Yeah that's what I thought too. This is something else.
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Maybe this is like when champion rebalance happens in league, sometimes they say they nerfed something when really they did pretty much nothing and let the placebo effect take care of it all.
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Well it is just a reply from a cs rep after all, probably doesn't know anything about and that is why it is phrased like it already happened. I don't mind replys like this to such questions cause they should have known a service rep can't really do anything about nerfs. At best it goes into a statistical report on what kind of issues/concerns they encountered during a time period.
Nag panic naman kasi itong papansin na OP
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i think he is merely clarifying rather than being on panic.
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this piss me off, it's not a PVP game. it's all about individual experience, if you think a unit make the game too easy, don't fucking use it. stop ruining it for everyone.
Edit: each unit have up and down. Tridon is high BB SBB cost, low DC, bad attack animation. Zenia, low up, hard to spark.
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I totally agree. Comparing using Tridon friends and subbing out my Feeva can totally wreck my strategy. His high BB cost and everything is already not so good. His abilities are good but his synergy isn't the best. I have Zenia but not her sphere, but from what I see she isn't exactly the all-rounded unit but rather a atk oriented unit. Its true she's op but it's not like she's breaking the game. I still lose her quite a lot in difficult content compared to even Alpha batch units
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I really hope they change their minds. Zenia and tridon will be outclass anyway so please no nerf :( these units make raids so much easier and less annoying.
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Zenia Nerfed
The end is nigh...
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I wouldn't trust what support tells you. Gumi's left hand can't even tell you if the right hand exists.
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They just made an announcement that they r not touching xenia and tridon and no nerfs/buffs have been considered at this time
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Why would they even nerf Tridon and Zenia? I think both of them are just fine.
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This is a canned response where they thank you immediately for your question/feedback then address the issue. This proves nothing about a nerf. If the issue is a suggestion or concern about a feature, they then process it to the appropriate team for review. This is standard operating procedure for most help desks/customer service responses.
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I might just stop spending money on summons if this happens, I'm sick of trying really hard to get a unit which works well with my team, only to have it nerfed in the near future. Freaking league of legends going on in here.
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I would agree that the nerf should stand true if I could kill Xie Jing by using those units. I will die even if i use UBB in last phase of fight. i dont think they should be nerfed or if they going to nerf them then nerf xie jing trial. freaking bilighted harvest x3 and debuff aoe in same turn.....
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Tbh, i tink a nerf is fine as long as it is not too bad. Zenia and Tridon are considered OP, even by JP standards. Makes everything in global a cakewalk. Tridon was a mistake from the start. 10% all element mitigation WITH % HP is seriously too imbalanced
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If they do, then I expect 100 gems back, since I pulled 20 times when Zenia came out, BECAUSE she was so good. If they released her in whatever nerfed state, I would've held onto my gems. If they nerfed a freely obtainable unit, that'd be one thing, but many summon with bought gems, with means there is an attached value to a summoned unit.
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Time for will to shine
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If gumi decided to do this, most players, esp. the p2pers, will quit the game. That means no more $$$ for gumi lol.
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Said someone every single time.
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I think that a nerf is kinda needed.. They just both provide so much for just one unit; leader skill, extra skill, bb, sbb. Japan has their own exclusives and they're fairly balanced as well. I think it's only fair for them to be nerfed; still I'm sure tridon would still be used for his shield, I'm sure if they do get nerfed it would just be a decrease in buff/LS potency (Zenia bb fill reduced) or a removal of a buff (tridon's 30% bc and hc drop).
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Okay let's be honest. Nerfs happen in every game, but the victims are still used regardless right? It's unlikely they're reworking his kit. It's like a live band composition; tridon and zenia have their gain knobs set at 11, therefore really overpowering those around them. But when you lower the gain, they cut clear into the mix and allow for a better, more pleasant, outcome. This is coming from an avid zenia and tridon user :) although no on really knows what's gonna happen, there's always going to be justification.
It's a good thing I finished most content with them though :D
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We should get refunds